Bazirker Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 OK so my stereo cd burning unit only has a coaxial out, so I just went out and bought a coax to optical converter. Everything works wondefully, except if I record a cd with 12 tracks, the md (MZ-R70) will detect all 12 tracks...but then when it writes the TOC it writes the max number of tracks possible. I would think it's something wrong the converter, except this also happens on my brother's cd player (has an actual optical output.) It's really weird, like when the cd stops playing and the signal stops, the md pauses like it should and says it is on the 12th track. Nut then I push stop, and it writes as many tracks as possible to the toc. The way it plays back is the first 253 tracks are like the first 20 seconds of the recording and then the last track is the rest of the recording. It's really pissing me off because it's a stupid problem and my unit isn't damaged and shouldn't be acting up like this. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted January 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Got it figured out. The disc I was trying to record is "PSI," by Pitchshifter. Copyright managment...my md occansionally said "no copy," and made all those track marks. It doesn't happen with other cd's though...another weird factor is that I was using a cd-r made from the original cd using nero to make a perfect cd image. I'm going to continue research and see if it was the cd-r or the cd image that is causing the problems. I still welcome input on how to defeat this or what's actually going on...as of right now, I'm just converting the entire cd to wave and then burning it to a cd-rw right now. I'll see if that works in just a sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted January 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 I was wrong, it's not that the album is copy protected... Any cd I made with my phillips stereo cd burner has SCMS stuff on it that prohibits me from digitally transferring it by making the above happen. Dammit. So I took my old cd-r's that I made using my stereo unit, recorded the tracks onto my laptop in wav format, burnt that to a cd, and now i can record those. Would I lose any audio quality doing that? I basically converted cda to wav back to cda using musicmatch jukebox to rip the tracks and nero to burn them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVHShawn Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 almost any time you copy or transfer a piece of information, it has some sort of decay. If you can't hear it though, then it doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 If you are digitally ripping the tracks from the CD to .WAV files and then digitally copying them via digital output then you should not notice any kind of decay on audio quality as everything is digital from the source to the recorder. No idea if "digital" sound is an exact copy of the bytes stored in a WAV file, but, in my idea of digital audio, it should be. Anidel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted August 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 Digital audio means that the music data is stored as exactly that...data. Lots of 0's and 1's. When you transfer that data, the 0's and 1's should remain exactly the same, meaning there should be no change at all whatsoever to the audio quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expander2000 Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 I also have an MZ-R70 and I have had a similar problem. I have discovered that burning audio cds using a specific version of nero would behave normaly during recording with the optical cable, however during playback I had 255 tracks and the last one was insanely long. Also, just a slight correction if I may, when digitaly coping CDs there are tiny changes that occur due to error correction. And when doing the same but between MDs, there is a cycle of decompression/compression each time. Also this to say that even though it's only 1s and 0s, they can be altered or changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrias Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 I have a Philips cd burner and I'm having the same problem. I can't make a digital copy of any cds burned in the Philips unit when using an optical line from the cd burner to the MD. My question is: if I connect a coaxial cable to the amplifier can I copy these cds to the MD, the same way I copy LP's?? And if doing this way will I loose too much quality in the recording? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NRen2k5 Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 When you rip a CD, burn and rip again, you won't losy sound quality, but since you're using MusicMatch Jukebox, the trackmarks could possibly be thrown way off if your burner has a large read offset, because MusicMatch is a stupid piece of sh!t that AFAIK doesn't adjust for offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Digital audio means that the music data is stored as exactly that...data. Lots of 0's and 1's. When you transfer that data, the 0's and 1's should remain exactly the same, meaning there should be no change at all whatsoever to the audio quality.Any extraction of CD-DA is still an imprecise thing. Errors do get through, but generally everything should be as it was with the original. There is also the issue of read and write offsets, though - meaning most ripped stuff is likely to be missing a few samples from the beginning or end of every track extracted. Other than that, as long as the disc is pristine and the drive in proper working order, everything should be accurate to the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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