Guest Anonymous Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Hi, Does anyone know of a piece of software that can be configured to look at a local FreeDB database that can also talk to my MZ-N710? If it can't do NetMD, then perhaps there is something that can convert my CDs to ATRAC3 format? TIA, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Sonicstage can do it, so can simple burner, and win nmd can look at tracks on an MD and do freedb stuff. Sonicstage should've come with your md. Win NMD can be found at the stickied link on the NetMD forum on which this was posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daijoubu Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 nah, they use gracenote cddb not freedb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Oh yeah...duh. Actually, win nmd uses freedb. Either way, what's the difference? Free track titles are free track titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Thanks, I'll take a look at Win NMD. The FreeDB bit is an issue for me becuase I don't have an always-on internet connection, and I want to xfer loads of CDs to ATRAC format. I have configured my home network to run a local FreeDB server & database, so I wanted a piece of s/w that could be configured to look at that. Hopefully Win NMD fits the bill. Cheers, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Hang on, Win NMD looks like an upload tool - not what I was after. Oh well, thanks anyway. This NetMD game is beginning to become more trouble than it's worth. It's a shame really... Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 No no. If you want to convert cd's to atrac, I assume you mean you want to put your cd's on md because it isn't possible to record atrac on the computer (the comp only records atrac3, which is a different codec. If you just want atrac3, meaning lp2 or lp4, then just use openmg or sonicstage to rip the cd's onto your computer. BUT, if you want to put them on minidisc, you can make your recordings using a digital realtime TOSLINK connection and then win nmd can access freedb and title the tracks for you so you don't have to. If I still haven't quite figured out what you're trying to do, I apologize... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Hi again, Yep, what I want to do is to rip my CDs onto hard disk in ATRAC3 format (sorry, I mentioned ATRAC in a previous post). Sorry if I wasn't clear (I don't think even I knoew what I wanted when I started out!). But... 1) I want to do the onversion using a program that can access a local FreeDB server I have running on a unix box - I don't think proprietary Sony software allows this (anyone?) 2) I want to be able to do it without necessarily having the NetMD player attached. I can then use my library of titled ATRAC3 files to feed my NetMD player as and when I want, at a decent rate, using RealOne. So far, what I have seen involves a lengthy conversion/xfer process (all that SimpleBurner/Nero stuff). I should add that I'm wanting to convert a heck of alot of CDs, not just 1 or 2. I MAY have found my holy grail in a ripper called Audiograbber (which can be configured to encode ATRAC3 rather than MP3). This proggy can also use a FreeDB server, I think. If I'm barking up the wrong tree please let me know... Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Ah, I understand now, sorry about the confusion. Sony software does indeed use Gracenote for cd info. I think that Audiograbber can record music in atrac3 (if you have the codec,) BUT I don't think it's the same kind of music format that OpenMG or Sonicstage records in. As a result, I HIGHLY doubt that you'll be able to check them out to MD, although I believe that any music program that can read wav files will be able to playback these files (if you're thinking of using the recording method I've heard of before.) Please post your findings if anything interesting happens, and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Alas, you are right - the PC ATRAC3 encoder is not directly compatible with the NetMD. Another dead end :cry: Looks like I'm stuck using RealOne to convert MP3 to ATRAC3(OMG) for the time being. My quest to find an encoder that can create .omg files without needing to write to the MD unit continues.... Thanks for the information and your time, Bazirker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 No prob dude. I have also done some questing, and to no avail. I feel ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 For what it's worth, my latest solution involves ripping CDs to my HD (WAV format), encoding them using LAME (MP3 format), and then using SonicStage to convert them, ready for download (ATRAC3 format). These things are sent to try us.... Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 Whoa, why are you converting them to wav then mp3 then omg? Why not go straight from wav to omg? And by the way...I was reading earlier stuff in this post, and I honestly must admit that I don't know much about how online track titling works. How is it that FreeDB works differently from Gracenote? Do you download a big file to your comp full of cd names or something? I thought they both just accessed the internet and got track names... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 OK, I went and did some research and figured out what the differences are between gracenote and freedb. I got an idea on how t use freedb with sonicstage...is there any way that the program can be faked out so that it thinks it is accessing gracenote when it is actually accessing the freedb database? Hey Josh, to make your freedb search easier... http://www.freedb.org/freedb_aware_apps.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Hi, I'm going WAV->MP3->OMG because I don't have a massive hard disk on which to store the wav files. Bakground reason: I will be using RealOne player to download tracks to the NetMD unit, since I can't be dealing with that Sony Check-in nonsense. To download, RealOne needs the MP3 file to be present in addition to the OMG file - it doesn't work otherwise. I delete the WAV file after I'v converted to MP3. Ta-da! No, I don't think SonicStage can be tweaked to use FreeDB. The reason is that it now uses the newer Gracenote system called CDDB2. The original CDDB used similar mechanisms as FreeDB hence could be tweaked more easily. As an aside, I am running my own private FreeDB server on a Unix machine on my home network. So yes, I have my own CD database (it's BIG!). I did all of this because I don't have an 'always-on' interent connection and as such don't want to waste money dialing up just to retrieve CD info (especially since I have 100s of CDs!). FreeDB compatible software can have several levels of support - not many provide the ability to access a specific database such as my home network's (most will just go to frredb.org). Thanks for the link - in fact that's where I learned most of my (limited) knowledge about FreeDB! Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 By the way, I like the idea of going direct from WAV->OMG. What software would allow me to download OMG files to my NetMD player without any supporting WAV or MP3 files? Are OpenMG/SonicStage the only programs available? Thanks, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazirker Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 I think they are the only ones...I didn't know RealOne required the original file in MP3. You sure you can't just use wav? That sounds really weird to require an original mp3 file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Sorry, you're probably right. You can probably go from WAV->OMG using RealOne but I don't use that method because storing the WAV file takes up too much space. That's why I convert to MP3 and store that instead... Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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