Guest Anonymous Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 how can I give my live recorded music in PC with digital quality via USB? which program I have to use? I will have to do any hardware modification, in MD or in PC... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandsun Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 You need an MD deck with digital audio output, and something to bring digital audio into the PC. Some sound cards have digital audio jacks. I use a Canopus MD-Port which converts optical to USB audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 You need an MD deck with digital audio output, and something to bring digital audio into the PC. Some sound cards have digital audio jacks. I use a Canopus MD-Port which converts optical to USB audio.Can i ask you where i can buy the Canopus MD-port? It's a product from Japan. It will be cool if you buy it from local (i live in los angeles too), thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandsun Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 I ordered it from Japan via Japan-Direct. But today I would probably buy some other product instead, because there are two or three similar boxes that are already sold in the US, and with discounts you'll get it cheaper. Check out this Yamaha for example http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMUW10 My Canopus MD-Port works well enough, but it only supports 44.1khz sample rate. Most other devices on the market are multi-rate (32, 44.1, and 48khz) which can be important if you have DAT or other devices to hook up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11210 Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 I'm very interested in these. What are the other models you referred too? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandsun Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I know of the Roland UA30 (which apparently is poorly supported), the EgoSys U2A (which my brother owns, and apparently works very very well). Doing a google search for "USB optical audio digital" will turn up some other candidates. If all you need are digital IOs there's also the Edirol UA-1D. I think if I were doing this all over I would buy the EgoSys U2A, since it has a complete set of analog *and* digital inputs and outputs. It really does it all. But from a purely practical standpoint, I only need digital audio I/O; I can use my MDS-JB920 in pass-thru mode if I want to record an analog source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandsun Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 There are some nice options on Minidisco's web site too http://www.minidisco.com/computer-audio.html The M-Audio Transit looks very nice, with 24-bit/96khz support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11210 Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Thanks for your reply. What I need to do is "upload" a speaking session from a N707 or N1 to my computer to make a CD. Would I lose much quality by just plugging right into my computer and not using one of these devices? It seems like to me you still have to convert to an analog signal at some time. Thanks for your help, Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandsun Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 The problem with most PC's built-in audio ports is that they generally have poor isolation and so pick up a lot of noise from the power supplies and everything else going on. On my PCs I can often hear buzzing whenever full-screen scrolling occurs, just for an example. So the main reason to use one of these USB devices even with analog signals, is the hope that the external device's A-D/D-A codec is better isolated than what's already in your PC. So the point isn't that the PC's analog input is necessarily bad at digitizing a signal, it's just that what you're digitizing is more than the music you wanted to record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 If all you're seeking is isolation from the computer's noise and interference for an analog input, the Griffin iMic gives you input and output jacks via USB for $40 list (less on Ebay). http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 The info on this thread is really helpful, thanks... I am also looking to do the same recording of live md recordings into the computer and I am also wondering what is the best way to do so. I have thought about picking up the Edirol ua-1d, but I am wondering what the best software is to actually record the input. I have used Goldwave, but I don't know how to use the USB as the input source for Goldwave. Is there a better software for my use? I have also thought about just putting up with the crappy soundcard for now and putting the money toward a HI-MD when they come out... Any thoughts...? (By the way, I dig this site--great info, and as my co workers here at the music store where I work say, I am obsessed with the mini disc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandsun Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 I've had erratic results with Goldwave, it drops samples when recording from USB. I haven't found a lot of really good alternatives. The current version of WinNMD works well for me now to record straight from my MZN10, previous versions had bugs with their track timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8 Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 can this program be used with a USB? i found an adapter that has several in and outs with a USB connecting to the computer. i'm using the MZ-N10, need to upload recorded sounds to sync with film work on the computer. need something where i can move the audio files freely around my HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 You can use a USB adapter. For WinNetMD, that would mean using 2 USB ports. WinNetMD uses the USB on the MD to get track and title information, and gets the sound from headphone out to Line-In. I've never had any problems with it. I have used it through a Griffin iMic, which gives you line-in and line-out via another USB connection to the computer. If I remember right, you have to set the Windows Recording Mixer (it's in Options on CoolEdit, probably the same in Goldwave) to use Line-in on the USB, same as if you're using an external soundcard via USB, but you only have to do it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8 Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 would i get better sound quality from a USB connection opposed to the In jack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anont Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 would i get better sound quality from a USB connection opposed to the In jack?If you have a cheap soundcard, or your computer's sound is built-in to the motherboard, then the USB connection would indeed be an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11210 Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I have two laptops. One is a Dell (about 1 1/2 yrs old) the other is a Gateway (about 1 yr old). On the Gateway I get a lot of static and background noise. On the Dell however it sounds great. As you can see it really depends on your computer. What I would suggest is download the trial of Gold Wave and record nothing to your computer. Then play it back and listen for pops and crackles. It will at least help you to know if you are going to have a major problem. Of course since it is an analog connection you still will lose some quality. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8 Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 i just did my first upload test with audacity. for now i'm happy that it worked and i'm actually able to put recordings into a file on my PC. the quality is ok, a little quiet. i'll probably just make due with it untill the HI MD's come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Is the output volume all the way up from the MD into the headphone jack? And is the mixer volume (next to the picture of the microphone) all the way up on Audacity? If the original recording wasn't too quiet, and your Line-In is working properly, then Audacity shouldn't mute it any further. You can also try recording it through Mic-In on the computer, and see if that helps or adds too much noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbraunius Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 I have an audio card with TOSLINK in and out and an old school first edition Sony MD recorder that supports TOSLINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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