AlienKarma Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 First of all great forum . :cool: Can a Net MD like the MZ - N10 i own record in the ATRAC3+ format? So... what's the point riping out music in the ATRAC3+ format (48 Kbps) using SonicStage if the MD only recs in the regular ATRAC3 format? (I'm a newb so this is probably a dumb question ) Tnks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Hi, and welcome to the forums. :happy: There is no point to recording in ATRAC3plus on a non-Hi-MD/Network Walkman unit, as it is incompatible. You would need a Hi-MD/Network Walkman to effectively use these bitrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceeedtea Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Instead of developing seperate programs for their different lines of products, Sony decided to have a "all-in-one" program, SonicStage, which supported their entire range of products - NetMD, Hi-MD, ATRAC3+ PDCPs, Network Walkman, etc. In addition, to develop seperate program for seperate devices would equate more time = more resources = more money. Thus, that is why the option is there in the program; it's a "blanket solution" of sorts. :smile: There is no point to recording in ATRAC3plus on a non-Hi-MD/Network Walkman unit, as it is incompatible.Actually, kurisu, ATRAC3+ works correctly on Network Walkman units, even up to the new ATRAC3+ 256kbps bitrates. But you are correct, in that it does not work on normal, "older-generation" NetMD/MD units. Correct me if that is not what you meant....(?) Adding this to the NetMD FAQ. :smile: Oh, yes. Welcome to MDCF. Grab a drink, stay a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Erp, you're right. I was in a rush. :sleep: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienKarma Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Hummm i c. I've done some recordings in LP4 (ATRAC3@66Kbps) and my Meola records sound great, with a much better quality over my mp3pro@64kbps rips. :grin: PS: By the way the N10 Headphones suck , no bass at all... :whatever: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geed Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 well the way i see it is you can encode something with better sound quality smaller file size then convert it again which means better codec less space, less space more room am i making any sense? hehe i like it i own an n10 and ive encoded a couple cd's to test at3+ , only thing i dont like about ss2 is you cant adjust where your at when your monitoring a song also it doesn't tell you how much space is left but SP hm geed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caffienated sponge Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 as a general rule, i'd've thought the fewer codecs/encodings the file had been thru the better... if a lossy codec has thrown data out, a better codec can't just reinvent it. once compression has clipped the file it stays clipped. this is why in pro photography we tend to hang on to a raw (if available) or TIFF as well as a jpeg - the jpg file's great for web, and possibly printing realllly small (depends on file size obv!) but useless for quality print. think how many times recently you saw fuzzy product pics in the news columns of whatever mags u read - this is what happens when someone in marketing sends the mag a 19k jpg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceeedtea Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 This is correct, "caffienated sponge". In audio, this is commonly refered to as "transcoding". Very bad. This is why I have always recommended users to copy to MD using their original sources, and not from a MP3 copy of it, if humanly possible. Edit: To explain further, what SonicStage does with ATRAC3+ files, is that it decodes the lossy file back to a .wav, then it encodes it to a LP2 file. Even lossier. Bad. Oh, yes, welcome to MDCF. :smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geed Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 true, i wish i could transfer at3+ without having to lp2 to my n10 its a good compression idea, but in some songs it gets loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienKarma Posted April 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 ... only thing I don’t like about ss2 is you cant adjust where your at when your monitoring a song also it doesn't tell you how much space is left but SP hm Same opinion here :wacky: My encodings to ATRAC3 and MP3Pro were done with the original CD's (same source) I love the LP4 (ATRAC3@66Kbps) mode (using original CD’s)... I consider myself as being exigent about sound quality. Don't understand why there are so many people hating LP4 for music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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