bhangraman Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 With all the talk about the yet-to-be-released-or-officially-confirmed Wave Converter, one things been forgotten. The fact that you can't write an uploaded track to Audio CD seems to be a totally artifical block. I.e. it's somewhat blatantly obvious that the Sonicstage software WILL write uploaded tracks to Audio CD, but it's 'knobbled' from doing so by some software setting or extra code. The thing is, if Sony won't 'flip on this switch' for us, then does not the existence or release of Wave Converter make a mockery of that block? And what implication does this have for the actual release of the Wave Converter? I've had trouble getting concrete sense over this matter from Sony, and I can tell that even the people I'm talking to get confused at this point. Discuss, speculate, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 If there is a wav converter, than sony's motives for not releasing it yet are indeed un-logical. It would seem to me that perhaps the wav converter has only been recently developed to fend off some of the massive negative response HI-MD has been getting, so maybe changing the code for SS2 + recompiling & testing to give SS2 the ability to burn normal audio cd's takes longer. On the other hand, seeing how the wav converter is specially suited for HI-MD, sony could have wanted to prevent any hacking of SS2 to burn audio cd's for all types of devices or purchased downloads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhangraman Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 so maybe changing the code for SS2 + recompiling & testing to give SS2 the ability to burn normal audio cd's takes longer. I don't think so. You can burn ripped PCM-OMG files to Audio CD. The same with Hi-SP. You can't burn uploaded versions of those to Audio CD. In fact, if you go into the Properties of the uploaded files, they'll say "Remaining ATRAC CD Transfers: Unlimited, Remaining Audio CD Transfers: 0". The ripped PCM-OMG files have both attributes set to Unlimited. Clearly we're not dealing with an addition of code/setting that's required, but a subtraction. I for one would like to see this hacked, as it really is a silly limitation. Looking at it with my Sony hat on, it's not silly... but my Sony hat is, er, old hat :grin: Actually looking at the whole situation, ATRAC-only for MD is actually a silly limitation as far as I'm concerned: Hi-MD's would sell like hot cakes if they included an MP3 codec alongside an ATRAC codec (even if the MP3 codec was limited to, say... 192K to preserve Sony's 'ATRAC sound best' mantra). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Maybe the wav converter is already there and a subsequent update [sonicstage 2.3/4/5, whatever] will unlock it. If it's another program, then Sonicstage 2 gets my "bloatware of the year" award. When you speak to Sony bhangra, whom do you speak to? High level product specialists? Insiders, what? I thought your information was solid and the people delivering it were of such caliber. Are they just typical Sony confused? Talking to the blokes in America is a near waste of time. p.s. Karma point for your active participation as of late and good topic. :happy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhangraman Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 When you speak to Sony bhangra, whom do you speak to? High level product specialists? Insiders, what? I thought your information was solid and the people delivering it were of such caliber. Are they just typical Sony confused? Talking to the blokes in America is a near waste of time. To date, at least a product manager. But you'd be surprised how clueless they can be too... Or maybe not, if you know the role of product managers in general. With Sony, there's also the additional element of language. It's rare but misunderstandings can happen. It's not like a permanent thing for me as far as Sony product promotion is concerned, so for a particular project it could well be that the nearest I'll get to Sony is a very attractive and genuinely clueless PR girl. In which case, (or if there's an NDA involved) you're unlikely to hear as much from me as you do with Hi-MD. Also, because - I'm not actually Sony staff - I know several people at Sony apart from the ones that I might be dealing with occasionally, I have to tell whoever I'm talking to about a Sony product something that I know that they know which I know that non-Sony people don't know in order to draw out the answer from them for something that I don't know. Fun, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Let me get this straight. Just say i recorded my band at the highest setting for the highest quality. Then i dumped it all to my computer with the Sony software provided. That music won't be a WAV file? Would i be able to convert it? confused, joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhangraman Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 To clarify: No, and no as things stand. You can't burn an Audio CD of the uplaod either. WAV converter (if released) will convert the secured PCM file into WAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 wow, the fact that their bundled software can't do that is really a shame. Does it look like they will be releasing this "WAV Converter" software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 The Prince: http://forums.minidisc.org/viewtopic.php?p=26761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 thanks, that makes me happy (being able to at leat upload digitally (USB) at real time). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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