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If you recorded over the previous recording you cannot retrieve the file. If your recorder/player says you have a blank disc due to accidental erasure you can restore the original disc if you have a deck or portable. Go here for info: http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=19929 best of luck.

Approx 3" X 6" X 1 1/2" this thing is almost a brick and 4 (FOUR) AA batteries? The elegance is gone!

I can fix your deck if you like...

Hey raintheory, I'm extremely impressed with your detailed instructions on TOC cloning using the R700 and G750 portables. My one comment would be the practicality of opening up and modifying a perfectly good mini disc player. Even if the average person in here had some sort of skills to perform the 'mini'(micro)-surgery the harm that might happen to the unit concerns me. I love taking things apart and putting them back together. I have a box full of all the spare parts I had left over from all the re-assemblies of computers, carburetor, hard drives, vacuum cleaners, keyboards, refrigerators, belt sanders, clocks and TV's I fixed. I found it amazing that after all the repairs I performed, my appliances and computer gear worked fairly well (if not almost as well) as the manufacturer originally intended. I assumed that most manufacturers overcompensate in their designs by giving the consumer more screws and springs and things that are actually needed for the appliance to work. As a mater of fact, I'm utilizing all the spare parts I collected over the years to build a vacuum computer that can sand floors, tell you what time it is so you can watch a TV program on time as you make coffee and keep cool while getting really great gas mileage. Patents are pending. I would like to think that Sony or Sharp would include this 'overcompensation of parts' in their production of portable mini-disc recorders but because the parts are so microscopically small for everything to fit into one of these things, I find it highly unlikely. Would it be a silly idea to just buy an inexpensive mini disc deck to use not only for an additional recording source but to restore the TOC? These decks can be had for about $120.00 now. As I posted, I use my deck to restore TOC in erased discs with minor problems. It must be that my deck needs some adjustments...wheres my screwdriver?

Recordable MD's are similar, but a pre-groove replaces the pits and valleys and an MO coating replaces the aluminum one. When recording, a laser is focused from one side of the disc onto the pre-groove and heats a spot on the MO recording layer to its Curie point while a magnetic field from a head in contact with the other side of the disc aligns magnetic domains within (read: magnetizes) the heated spot on the MO layer (the N/S orientation corresponding to 0s and 1s in the data). During playback the MD machine focuses the laser on the pre-groove again, but at lower power, and the data is read back by measuring changes in polarization of light reflected from the previously magnetized regions (the Faraday effect)." When you think about the mind (s) that came up with all that, it boggles mine.... Simply amazing!

I'm listening to a recording of Howard Sterns radio program from May 14 2007. I thought I lost this recording but yesterday I restored it with a TOC/clone fix. Howard talks about his girlfriend and He interviews Hansen all grown up....lol Hey you asked.

I guess the fact that what all the discs really do is store digital information you are correct sir. I have to keep remembering it's all ones and zeros with pits and flats (peaks and valleys?). The mechanism would be the key ingredient for professionals and serious home record-ists. I have a few of the discs with plastic shutters....Awful...lol Rain...I finished the draft on cloning the TOC...you might want to check it out. I would assume your management had a good reason other then differing disc sound quality. It must be the casing and shutter around the disc that would be less susceptible to breakage or jamming. Makes sense.

I was wondering if anyone has done a comparison between the manufacturers of mini-discs. Other than the quality of the shell and mechanism, does the actual spinning disc differ in quality from one manufacturer to another? I have an assortment of discs from different manufactures and I've detected no difference hearing the audio in SP, but would it be detectable to hi-tech equipment like oscilloscopes? The best discs I've seen are the ones from Sony, Neige 74 or 80 minute discs. Even the case has enough texture to it so it doesn't slip out your hand when stacked together. Do professional audio techs prefer one brand from another? Does one company make just the disc and then ship it to different manufacturers that incorporate it into there case? Silly question I guess but I got nothing else to ask at this time...lol

Hey raintheory, I restored 4 mini discs so far. The amended procedure for my deck MDS-JE470 is as follows: Disc A A blank disc that you record nothing on. See below Disc B The original disc that was accidentally erased Take a blank disc and Record (in the same format) "nothing" for the length of the disc." Turn off the deck and let the TOC write to the disc. Lets call it Disc A This disc can be used for future restores so hold onto it. 1. Insert Disc A into the deck. 2. Cut power to the deck (pull the plug or use a switchable outlet on your amp) 3. Press AMS knob and restore power to the deck at the same time. .....Your in Service mode TEMP CHECK is on the display (don't touch any other controls). 4. Eject Disc A 5. Insert Disc B (The original disc you accidentally erased) 6. Cut power to the deck. (pull the plug or use a switchable outlet on your amp) 7. Turn the deck back on .....You will see that the counter will read one full track. 8. Press play (you original recording will play) 9. Divide the 1 track or write to the disc 10. Press stop 11. Turn off the deck for the "write" to take effect 12. Turn on the deck to see if the TOC wrote to the disc. .....Your disc should be restored. I'm a bit crazy with this. I've held on to discs for over a year that were accidentally erased and I thought were lost. After 2 restores I got it down to a science and it takes about 4 seconds for the 12 steps once you get the hang of it. What I'd like to do is write the original author who over complicated the instructions and offer our revised instructions after your comments. REVISED PROCEDURE 09/17/07 10:17 PM REVISED AGAIN 09/18/07 2:56 AM Every time I restore an original disc it seems that a different procedure is required for it to work on my deck. Please verify the above and let me know if the instructions I wrote are OK. Revised 09/25/07 The above procedure does work BUT...if the original disc that's to be restored was one full long track, you might have TOC write problems trying to edit it after the restoration. If your original recording had more than on track or if there was room on the disc for additional recordings, the method as outlined will work for the decks as described. All I want to do is sleep....lol

Great idea! One thing I want to do is clone another disc so I can be sure of the procedure I performed. I believe you don't have to edit the disc giving it a name or date. I did this initially and it didn't work. The second time I tried it, I just played the mini disc as usual after the clone and then I let the TOC do the editing when I turned the machine off. I'm proud to me a member of the MDtoCCC

I did it! I thought I screwed up the 5 plus hours of recording "nothing". The first try didn't hold (must have done something wrong with naming the disc) but I simply reinserted the blank disc again and performed the required steps. I have my recording back. I'll have to edit at the commercials again but it will keep me happily busy. The great thing is I believe I can reuse the "nothing" blank for all of the discs I have to restore. So I might not have to record another 5 hours. Seems logical? The tricky part was pulling the plug and pressing buttons. Then I realized I could plug the mini disc deck into an outlet on my receiver that turned off when I turn my receiver off. I guess that would qualify it as sneaking up on the deck. I'll do another test and restore another disc and define and augment the instructions but they were pretty clear after you and I went over them. Again raintheory...thanks so much for your help.

Raintheory, I'm giving this a try today. I started to record a blank disc so in about 4 1/2 hours I'll make the attempt. I found out there is no easy way of entering test mode with my deck. I found this: http://www.minidisc.org/manuals/sony/servi...vice_manual.pdf A few additional "tricky" maneuvers. I'll have to integrate these instructions (if they work) into our compilation. Wish me luck....lol

Excellent...Einstein would be proud of both of us. You sir...Are a peach!!!

1. Take a blank disc and Record (in the same format) "nothing" Lets call it Disc A 2. Let the deck write the TOC 3. After the TOC writes to this disc give it a name or date. Let the TOC re-write this info. 4. Go into TEST mode (don't press anything after this) 5. Eject this disc while in TEST mode 6. Insert the disc that was mistakenly erased. Lets call it Disc B 7. Pull the power cord to turn off the machine 8. Plug the machine back in The mistakenly erased disc will be restored onto Disc A Paraphrasing Einstein...Keep things simple, don't make them simpler. The instructions on that link is a perfect example of over-writing. It pre-supposes-pre-suppositions and mixes them together with the instructions. Did I miss anything?

Thanks so much for your help with this. I'll read all the instructions throughly. Because I have to read up on some of the definitions like "dirty the TOC" and "source disc" and "super undo" I'll try to simplify all this so I can understand it. In the instructions there is a term like "tricky part" or sneakily eject the disc without the machine knowing....LOL. These terms have prevented me from performing this proceture in the past. I'll have to take a blank disc, record on it (with no line source) for 5 hours and 23 minutes then go through the instructions carefully. I assume that after I record "nothing" for 5h:23m I'm to somehow sneak up behind the deck and pull the power cord. What was Sony NOT thinking by not having a simply way to do this. They have an "undo" function in the menu selection. Unfortunately I turned off the deck after the disc read was "blank disc" Had I not turned the machine off, I might have been able to simply undo the last edit the machine made. Again..thanks for all the time you put in helping me.

Much thanks for your help. I will try this on a trial disc and I'll follow your instructions to the letter and let you know. I'm aware that if this isn't done correctly any hope of getting the last TOC back would be lost. I can do this on my inexpensive deck recorder/player correct? All my recordings are standard LP4 mode. There should be a simple concise way of dealing with this and perhaps a standard instruction manual will come out of it. My G750 still has life to it but it will not play or record. When I turn it on it says "recharging battery" or "No disc" but that's it. I'm sending it to Sony soon. I already contacted them and I gave them my credit card number. All I have to do is pack it up and bring it to the Post Office when I have time. How would I even modify my G750? Do you mean opening it up and performing micro-surgery? I don't think so....lol

Nice..thanks A440.....Plano never replied to my email. Thanks poe. By the picture and your count, about 86-88 mini discs with sleeves will fit in one box

Yeah!....it's bragging LOL

I spent about an hour editing one of my MD recordings (deleting and combining some tracks) on my deck. At the last edit the TOC displayed "blank disc". HORROR!!! There were supposed to be 12 tracks on the disc. This has happened to me before on my portables but never on my deck. It was the interview with Peter Townsend that Howard Stern was supposed to have with him before he bugged out on 10-25-06. Is there a sane comprehensive instruction written for cloning a TOC? I have read some of them but they are complicated and differ depending on what you read. Out of the hundreds of discs I have (thousands) there are 4 that need to be cloned. I know there is a way of getting the original TOC working again. I've been putting off the cloning issue but this afternoon I am really pi$$ed off. All that time and effort just to have the information vanish. Where's my cassette player? Also: I've also noticed that some of the edits don't take. On my portable when I edit out a minute or two of a recording, I make sure to shut the unit off for for the edit to occur. Yet when I go back to it the edit did not hold and I have to re-edit.

Cindy appeared on Howard's Show a few times but not recently. You can check out a site called Marksfriggen.com and do a search. If I have a recording of her I will gladly copy it for you and email the audio if that's at all possible. Marksfriggin lists in detail (it's almost a transcription) every show Howard's done since the mid 90's Below are a few of her appearances/references. http://www.marksfriggin.com/search.htm Cindy Margolis Calls In. 12/16/98. 6:45am Cindy Margolis Plays Game. 11/13/98. 7:10am Where Are They Now? Elisa (Cindy Margolis' friend) More On Nude Cindy Margolis Pictures. 8/20/01. 7:20am Howard's Thoughts On ''The Cindy Margolis Show''. 8/28/00. 8:05am Cindy Margolis Interviews Richard Simmons. 1/28/99. 7:15am Cindy Margolis ''Bikini Babe Bowl-A-Rama The Mike Walker Game With Guest Cindy Margolis. 1/23/98. 7:00am Cindy Margolis, the most downloaded woman on the internet, I pledge allegiance to the Source And to the united Atrack that combines us And to the Audio for which I heard with no comparison to Ipod One community, under MDFC guideines Indivisable With the cool factor for all. OK...wheres the mule? Does it kick? I have my receiver and MD deck remotely controlled to turn on automatically every morning. My Satellite receiver has a time feature that also turns on automatically. Even If I over sleep or I'm out...I still record the show. My deck isn't HI-MD and I can't use my portables because they can't be remotely controlled/timed to go on. With some of my older portables I accidentally erased a few minidiscs. I'm reading up on how to TOC edit/clone a disc. All of the reference materials I've seen have conflicting/confusing information. Recording a whole week worth of shows on one disc I'd need a HI-MD deck. Way to expensive. And you can't clone a HI-MD disc if it's accentually erased.

What is an MDA?...I've been a member of this community for some time but I'm just now getting into the software problems. I am by no means an expert on MD other then I happen to think it's the greatest form of recording technology that ever existed when you compare editing features with the sound quality and "The Cool" factor of the recorders themselves. I'm just (almost) getting over my anger with Sony for their paranoia and shortsightedness while most of you nice people have been suffering thru it for years. I'm doing further reading on ATRAC and the development of the technology and the creative genius that brought it into actual practice. It's a shame it's all falling by the wayside.

He's on Sirius Satellite now and commercials come when he wants so there are no real set times. I do watch the waveform and I know what you mean by "seeing" what a cough or a sneeze looks like. I find it easier to just edit on the deck then editing from Audacity. My actual radio recordings are made directly onto 80 minute minidisc on LP4 mode with my deck thru my satellite receiver and amp. I'm just getting into the software issue with minidiscs. I did want to rip some of the earlier recordings I have onto a CD. I thought I could simply high speed transfer them but then I came upon Sonicstage and the restrictions and frustrations you all have been going thru for so long. Unless I buy the RH1 I'll have to record via analog and that just ain't happening. Each show is 5 1/2 hours (+-) long. I'm reading some reports that even the RH1 will only transfer (high speed) HI-MD recordings. All of my MD's are LP4. It was an issue of the high(er) costs of minidiscs. I buy them in bulk of 100 vs. the cost of the RH1/M200. If I can use the RH1 and high speed transfer them to a CD I can apply the costs of the MD purchase to the recorder and after a year or so I'll actually save money (?)...lol

Been recording Howard for years..it must be A.D.D. or something...lol. I have close to 2,000 md's of the shows. MD was a godsend. I used to use cassette and VCR tapes.

Audacity is a great recorder but the editing functions leave a lot to be desired. Finding specific areas in a 5 hour recording then deleting them is frustrating, time consuming and well downright impossible. I tried to edit in audacity, I was better off listening to the disc on the deck, fast forwarding to the commercials and then making the divisions and then deleting them. I recorded on Audacity from a Sirius satellite show (Howard Stern) then transferred the 550MB file to Sonicstage, then onto a minidisc. I then edited (divisions/deletions) the mini disc recording on my deck.

I'm pretty sure Sony has installation downloads on their site....have you tried there? There are restrictions using Sonicstage to edit from personal recordings as I'm just finding out.