ROMBUSTERS Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 In using The Hi-MD Render i have a few questions.Does this only convert files uploaded to HDD from MD?If so is it the WavConversion Program that trashes uploads or SS, because if it is the later how is render any better?im a little confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Hi-MD renderer will convert to WAV any OMA file that can be played on such computer.SonicStale is the one that trashes uploads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 ok so in order to use renderer i have to use SS to upload my recording anyway? doesnt this defeat the purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?eter_ Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 ok so in order to use renderer i have to use SS to upload my recording anyway? doesnt this defeat the purpose?Not Really.the purpose of the renderer is to allow you to convert files from your MD to a fromat that you can use anywhere-originally just WAV but now Mp3,Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. So you don't have to put up with SS's restrictions on files you have uploaded to your PC.?eter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgdimo Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 On this topic, would it make sense to have BOTH programs handy on my desktop? Sony's WAV converter and Marc's Renderer? Does one program offer more or better than the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 see thats my question to. If its SS that trashes your recording you have to bare with it. However if no one's reported problems with Sony's Wave Converter, why keep renderer around (besides for the alternative?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcnet Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Renderer was around before the sony wav converter. Ive just maintained it and improved it because there are still a lot of people still using it. Even after the Sony wav converter was released. The advantage is that my program can convert oma files that have been made by SonicStage (CD-rips, mp3->oma conversion, etc). Also, I dont think Sony Wav converter allows conversion of uploaded tracks that were recorded via an optical digital connection. Mine does.Oh, and my program can convert oma to flac,mp3,ogg directly. And I take in feedback and try to improve my program to how you lot want it. Within reason and my coding ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peare Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Renderer was around before the sony wav converter. Ive just maintained it and improved it because there are still a lot of people still using it. Even after the Sony wav converter was released. The advantage is that my program can convert oma files that have been made by SonicStage (CD-rips, mp3->oma conversion, etc). Also, I dont think Sony Wav converter allows conversion of uploaded tracks that were recorded via an optical digital connection. Mine does.Oh, and my program can convert oma to flac,mp3,ogg directly. And I take in feedback and try to improve my program to how you lot want it. Within reason and my coding ability ←I had this computer crash, and my Sony Albums folder was not recognized by SS. Thanx to himdrenderer I converted all my albums to wav and back to atrac. Sony's program cant and wont to that. I had some songs purchased from Connect that I couldnt move to another PC they were also converted to wav and back to atrac. SONY WONT DO THIS ESPECIALLY. Himd renderer rocks! Thanx Marcnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgdimo Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Marc, Thanks for the clarification. This brings a whole set of questions to mind.Please excuse me for the following:1. This has probably been asked 100 times elsewhere...2. My lack of technical knowledge. But...I use my NH900 almost exclusively for live and ambient recording. Maybe someday I'll expand to storing [CD] albums and other information on my MDs to take on trips or to the gym or whatever. But for now, all I want to be able to do [like many of you I'm sure] is record my stuff and transfer either to CD or somewhere in the cyberworld like email attachment or website, etc. What's the best way to achieve this while maintaining optimum sound quality [as close to what it sounded like when I was there] yet manageable file size? Am I asking too much?Also, what is flac? What advantages does it have over MP3. Is it recognized as widely as MP3?Anyone? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 It's not asking too much. It's what MD should have always been about, and we're almost there. But what should be a simple one-step process takes two or three. Upload it digitally to the computer via SorryStage, making sure that you're doing it with the MD plugged in or a brand new battery (so power doesn't run out during the upload), and let SowhatStage run a little after the upload to make sure it has everything all tidied up. When pre-2.3 versions trashed things on me, I'm pretty sure it was after it claimed to be 100 percent uploaded but was apparently not finished. (If it's something absolutely invaluable and irreplaceable, make a realtime copy first from headphone jack out into your recording program of choice: Audacity, TotalRecorder, Cool Edit, WavePad. With Total Recorder you can also hook up the USB, play the disc back through SoggyStage and have Total Recorder record it digitally, eliminating noise from your computer's soundcard, which is likely to be mediocre. Or if you've put track marks on the disc, get WinNetMD, which records each track as a separate file by controlling the MD through SS, but it's analog.) Then you have your choice of re-encoders. Wav Converter will give you .wav files, which are hi-fi but big. You can burn .wav files to CD (with Nero or Feurio or Realplayer or whatever) and have them play in a regular CD player. Wav Converter is fast and seems straightforward, unlike SonicStiff. Instead of or in addition to Wav Converter, Marcnet's program also lets you turn them directly into .wav, .MP3, .FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, etc. For email or whatever, you want them smaller, and you have various choices. The tradeoff is between size and fidelity. Mp3 shrinks them, but the lower the bitrate the less fidelity you have: it's called lossy compression because it makes compromises. At around 192k or 256k, however, they sound pretty good. .Ogg files sound a little better at the same size, but it hasn't caught on like .mp3. FLAC is lossless compression, so the files are bigger--about 1/2 to 3/4 the size of .wav--but sound better. It's not as widespread as MP3, but you can get a plug-in so that it will play back in Winamp or other players. Google "Flac plug-in" (or "ogg plug-in"), they're easy to find. Of course, anyone else who wants to play it back on their computer will also need the plug-in. Portable CD players don't play FLAC, while many new CD players do play mp3. I've been uploading concerts and making .wav files from them, then burning them onto audio CDs for my own storage. To upload recordings into livefrommd , I use the wav files on my hard drive and compress them into MP3 with dbpoweramp http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htmFlac would be better--that's what the fanatic live tapers on www.etree.com and elsewhere use--but they probably wouldn't fit that 10MB limit. With the .wav files on the CDs, I could always reconvert to .FLAC if the occasion arose. It's really simpler than it sounds: Upload, Convert, Store. And if Sony finally comes to its senses--probably with SonicSurrender 9.0 in about a decade, when there are only about 3 people still using MD--it should be a snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Wav Converter will give you .wav files, which are hi-fi but big.←TOTALLY off-topic, but hey:WAV files are big.. heh.. my first editing with 16 bit audio was done on a system with a 210MB hard disc. Not much room for editing.Then two years ago I found myself editing 16GB worth of audio that was mostly 24/96. For a single project that ended up being 56 minutes in length.Yeah. WAV files are big. Heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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