Guest tony wong Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 the best is we can store music to MD disc(not only Hi-MD disc) and it can be read by non-Hi-MD equipmentit's very desirable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1980 Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 How can you have a HiMD drive which can be read by non-HiMD equipment.Anyway, this reminds me of some Sony laptops which came with NetMD drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 they didnt come with netMD drives, they came with MDData drives, a different technology. Anyways I completely agree with the inclusion of HiMD in future computer drives. it'd be a great way to fix MD into the market place. Here's an idea Sony. bite the bullet and install HiMD drives into your future PC and Laptops. Pay some cash now for a boat load later. When North American finally realises what an MD is a lot of people will be hooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tony wong Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 How can you have a HiMD drive which can be read by non-HiMD equipment.Anyway, this reminds me of some Sony laptops which came with NetMD drives.←What I mean is : the new Hi-MD can write into old MD in music format, and this MD can be read by old MD players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1980 Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 they didnt come with netMD drives, they came with MDData drives, a different technology. Anyways I completely agree with the inclusion of HiMD in future computer drives. it'd be a great way to fix MD into the market place. Here's an idea Sony. bite the bullet and install HiMD drives into your future PC and Laptops. Pay some cash now for a boat load later. When North American finally realises what an MD is a lot of people will be hooked←No, I was talking about NV series Vaio's which came with NetMD drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 It's actually a terrible implementation for the format because magneto-optical systems are limited to speeds substantially lower than USB1.1, which is already very slow (12mbps, much less than Firewire or USB2).The deal is that CD-RW and USB flash drives will be very hard to supplant from their lofty perch in this niche, and 1-2mbps transfer rates do not exactly appeal to me, or most people.Put more simply, it takes a good 20-25 minutes to fill up a Hi-MD disc with tracks from SonicStage. I can completely fill up my iPod Mini via USB2.0 in less than a quarter of that time, and that's four times the information, four times as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tony wong Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 aeriyn, I would like u to remember that...1. iPod is made of hard disk(very sensitive to shock and vibration, and, it's very heavy)2. flash memory is very expensiveanyone can tell me the fastest rate Hi-MD can transfer to other device or itself?is it 9.xMbps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Tire Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 aeriyn, I would like u to remember that...1. iPod is made of hard disk(very sensitive to shock and vibration, and, it's very heavy)2. flash memory is very expensiveanyone can tell me the fastest rate Hi-MD can transfer to other device or itself?is it 9.xMbps?←Amen to that brother. Minidiscs are cheap, small, robust. Flash memory and HDD are in different categories. I see minidiscs as floppies. Those stayed there for a long time despite being slow, fragile, and limited size. We just need something cheap and durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I see minidiscs as floppies.←This was Sony's original intent for MD-Data. Unfortunately, they just cost too much. MD Data isn't $2 each.But my floppy drive has gotten no use at all in the entire 4 years it's been in my PC. It's never been used once. If I have a serious OS error and have to boot off of something else, the XP setup CD is bootable.USB thumb drives are inexpensive and very durable, not to mention they work with any computer that has a USB port, which means they work with any PC or Mac. MD can't say this; you can't just hand your MD over to a friend unless you hand him the unit itself as well or he has a unit too.Hi-MD's current write speed is something around 1.5-2mpbs sustained, perhaps 4-5mbps burst. Far lower than the USB1.1 standard, much less USB2.0.And yeah, hard drives are suceptible to shock, but so is anything with moving parts. You can get head crashes with magnetic hard drive systems, and you can get optical pick-up block faults with optical/magneto-optical systems. It works both ways yanno. =PWhen it comes to durability nothing beats flash memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Tire Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 When it comes to durability nothing beats flash memory.←I wonder what sticking a magnet onto a flash memory stick does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I wonder what sticking a magnet onto a flash memory stick does.←Absolutley nothing. If you've got a voltage potential in your pocket, then maybe something. Ipod minis are not heavy. 100g at most. HiMD is heavier than that, but at 100 grams, who cares? I thought I did, but I got an E10 and I didn't care at all, so I sold it for an iPod. Then I sold the ipod and bought a guitar but that's another story. I've had MD discs go bad on me, MD units go bad on me, my flash memory sometimes corrups itself, the drive uninstalls itself, and I've made a bunch of coasters with my CD drive. Some of my CD ROM drives die as well and the burner is on it's way out. Even my hard drive failed once. Leads to a very "who gives a shit" attitude. I don't see durability as a concern.These new HiMD machines, if they could write maybe 2-4MB a second would really make a dent on the flash based thing market. The media per gigabyte is incredibly cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Tire Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Absolutley nothing. If you've got a voltage potential in your pocket, then maybe something. ←Uhm... how about spinning a magnet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Uhm... how about spinning a magnet?←the point is who is going to have a spinning magnet in their pocket with their USB jumpdrive? the answer is no one not on crack.You shouldnt have to worry about them period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 What I mean is : the new Hi-MD can write into old MD in music format, and this MD can be read by old MD players←All Hi-MD recorders already do this. It's a prerequisite of Sony's liscensees for the format as well.There are two important points to this, though:1) when connected to a computer, using MD-format discs, the units act as a netMD. This means all the caveats of netMD: no uploading, no true SP, &c. Your discs will play in any MDLP unit, though.2) When recording on the unit itself [in realtime, from optical or analogue sources] the units act as any MDLP unit would: you have full SP support, as well as the MDLP modes, and the discs, again, will play on any MDLP unit.If backward-compatibility is really a requirement for you [such as if you have a car deck], Hi-MD already does it. If you want full SP, realtime via optical or analogue is the only way to go, whether your recorder is MD, MDLP, netMD, or Hi-MD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tony wong Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 All Hi-MD recorders already do this. It's a prerequisite of Sony's liscensees for the format as well.There are two important points to this, though:1) when connected to a computer, using MD-format discs, the units act as a netMD. This means all the caveats of netMD: no uploading, no true SP, &c. Your discs will play in any MDLP unit, though.2) When recording on the unit itself [in realtime, from optical or analogue sources] the units act as any MDLP unit would: you have full SP support, as well as the MDLP modes, and the discs, again, will play on any MDLP unit.If backward-compatibility is really a requirement for you [such as if you have a car deck], Hi-MD already does it. If you want full SP, realtime via optical or analogue is the only way to go, whether your recorder is MD, MDLP, netMD, or Hi-MD.←I have missed out one word again(god, it's important! )What I mean is : the new Hi-MD computer drive can write into old MD in music format, and this MD can be read by old MD players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hironiemus Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 No, I was talking about NV series Vaio's which came with NetMD drives.←The drive was called PCGA-MDN1 and works out like a NET-MD but i'd rather like to see a drive which works on all MD formats: MD, Net-MD, Hi-MD at any bitrateHi-MD in data modemaybe MD Data and MD Professional as welland all this in a simple 5.25" or 3.5" rack It can't be such a big problem, can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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