What's Ur Primary Use Of Hi-md?

[Guest tony wong]

I can guess most people will choose this : only audio

here is my comments :

when MD first release, it mean to be an audio thing

it mean to replace the bulky size Discman

so in most people's eyes, MD(sort of thing) is mean to be an audio thing

straight to the point : did anyone ever think of using Hi-MD as a data storage rather than music disc?

did u really believe it can be rewrited for as many times as u like?

(I've thought of many many many things to say in this topic, but ok, let's skip it )

[ROMBUSTERS]

I use it for both.

Audio when Im not near my source of music

Data when Im transferring files from school to home or place to place

[Guest tony wong]

I use it for both.

Audio when Im not near my source of music

Data when Im transferring files from school to home or place to place

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is it really that fast to upload music from pc to player?

really about 8 sec for a 8M(should be the size of a 4 min song @256k) ?

how big is the data file size usually?

say, 50M?

300M?

[atrain]

no one would buy a himd as data storage unit unless they are really misinformed. the data thing is just a handy extra at a reasonable cost* compared to flash.

*if you own a himd recorder, of course. not so cheap otherwise!

[Guest tony wong]

no one would buy a himd as data storage unit unless they are really misinformed. the data thing is just a handy extra at a reasonable cost* compared to flash.

*if you own a himd recorder, of course. not so cheap otherwise!

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if u set up a poll, u've got to list up all choices, right?

"only data" is just a choice anyway

I'll have to include it as it is a poll

well, what I'll have to say is, if it is for me(yet I haven't got any Hi-MD equipment)

frankly speaking, I won't use it as data storage purpose

the reason is simple :

for audio thing, if u have some error bit inside

the worst is only skip or jitter

but for data it is totally different

for a single bit of error, a program won't execute

from the bottom of my heart, I really do think such thing like MD and cdr, will be more likely and sooner to be found of containing error

[ROMBUSTERS]

I'd say the HiMD can transfer an LP2 song in about 3-5 seconds so a HiSP in probably 6-15 is my guess

[Mikami]

My primary use of Hi-MD is for the salvation of old tunes.

I use Hi-MD to record old tapes, records, 8tracks, and live sources in PCM, upload and convert them to wav. So, that I can burn them to CD-R. Maybe, Music is Data is a way, but then again maybe not.

[Fat Tires]

Like Atrain, I view the ability to store files on an MD as a bonus feature, not the primary focus of my Hi-MD unit. With that said, it's nice to have around.

Now with that said, Sony wanted there to be a MD based PC storage media years ago. The tried and failed with Data-MDs. There's nothing wrong with using Hi-MD for data storage.

[1kyle]

Unlike a lot of people on this board I'm actually a professional who does a lot of work in the field. Now Camera cards (profession Digital Cameras --the 5,000 USD and more ones like Canon Series -1 I'm talking about here) get filled up pretty quickly when you are on a shoot and these are also mega expensive. By being able to offload a 1GB camera card on to a MD in the field quickly is a really useful application and then the card is ready again for re-use.

The guy who said flash storage is cheaper than minidisc -- he needs his head examined or he's just full of B/S.

These cost around 230 UKP for a 4GB model or around 400 USD compared with around 5 USD for a 1GB minidisc.

Here's the link

http://www.clove.co.uk/products/products.a...intElement=7967

A 4GB camera card costs a LOT of money. To offload into 4 X 1 GB discs until you can get to a laptop is far better and you've got a backup.

With a card reader and a Minidisc you don't need to take a laptop with you or even some of those "Digital Wallet" type of devices which in any case are unreliable and heavy.

I started with Minidiscs for music listening ages ago (with the original SP only models) but the HI-MD format has made using these for data storage feasable which is what I use it for.

I have 2 devices the NHF 800 and the NH1 and use them both for music and data.

By the interest shown in MP3's (a format I've never liked myself BTW) I'd suspect that probablly there are a lot of teens and early 20's who are primarily using these for music.

One point to remember however if you ARE tempted by Ipods ot the large capacity Hard Disk music players is that if it gets broken / stolen / you get mugged or whatever that's your entire music library gone up in smoke.

I've been in the biz long enough to know hard disks DO FAIL more than you think.

Another point is with a minidisc it's easy when you buy a new model to use the same discs and it's a lot easier arranging and re-recording music on to labelled minidiscs than having to organise a HUGE library every time.

Cheers

k

Edited February 20, 2005 by 1kyle

[KJ_Palmer]

I use Hi-MD mostly for music storage (ie. playback), but I also do a little PC data transfer. Mostly excel and word files for my home to home computer. Used to do it by floppy disk, then by memory stick - but lost that, then by PDA. But the Hi-MD way has proved the most reliable way (so far) - no problem with any 'bits getting lost' or whatnot ...

[Fat Tires]

Heh, KJ, I'm pretty lazy about small files transfers like that. I just email the files to myself and check my email on the other PC. If I'm moving files between PCs at home I just move them via my small home network.

[betamaxDATminidisc]

I prefer also Hi-MD data that I use it for both audio and data.

It's comfortable Hi-MD audio or data for computer and deck recorder (mini Hi-Fi) with USB.

[tartan]

sound recording and also a spot to save homework onto

ever since getting it last august the player is yet to be used for listening to music

[dex Otaku]

for audio thing, if u have some error bit inside

the worst is only skip or jitter

but for data it is totally different

for a single bit of error, a program won't execute

Hi-MD, unlike MD, uses an actual filesystem. Audio functions act as a layer on top of that filesystem.

As a result, the base-level error correction and such are identical for both.

[8track]

I use my MZ-NH900 as you would use a tape deck.I record (remember actually recording something?) in PCM and Hi-SP modes mostly.For me it's strictly an audio device. It's better to set your own record levels and just leave the computer out of it entirely. That's right folks...you can record without your computer. We used to do it all of the time. Believe it or not....8)

[Fat Tires]

Putting titles on tracks has become much easier with the advent of NetMD though.

[ROMBUSTERS]

Putting titles on tracks has become much easier with the advent of NetMD though.

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much easier but with some units with the jog wheel its also pretty much a breeze when you're on the go

[ksandbergfl]

no one would buy a himd as data storage unit unless they are really misinformed.

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the data storage "extra" is exactly why I bought a HiMD. Portable USB 300MB storage for $1.50 per disk? You can't beat that. Let me know when flash memory is down to that price (half a cent per megabyte), then you'll have a better argument.

I use my HiMD to back up programs and files from work. Also, whenever I download something from the internet, the ZIP's go straight to my HiMD. Being a programmer, I even have a HiMD disk with a runtime deployment of my programs on it -- I plug my HiMD into any Windows computer and run my code! Yes, the same thing can be done with USB pen drives or CD-RW disks.... but 10 USB pen drives would cost hundreds of dollars and 10 CD-RW's are less convenient to carry around than 10 minidiscs (not to mention far more prone to data errors). The only downside, to me, of HiMD is the relatively slow USB 1.1 data transfer rate.

On the audio side, my main usage is to record streaming audio from various internet radio sites. It's hard to listen during the day at work, so I'll just tune into a station and click "record" (using Wavepad or Total Recorder). At the end of the day, I'll go thru the WAV file with a file splitter and then drop the songs onto my HiMD, so I can listen to commercial free radio in my car on the way home.

[Christoph]

no one would buy a himd as data storage unit unless they are really misinformed.

Well, I use it also as a data drive and that for a simple reason; it is the most reliable method for writing data. As you probably all know it is a magneto-optical storage method and due to this superior to a harddisk ( just put a big speaker magnet on your harddisk, ok DON'T do that unless you really want to get rid of your data :-) ) or to a CD ( just leave your CD in the sun for a while).

Furthermore it is a convienent way to transport data, rather than burn it to CD, you just copy it on this cute little disc. And not every Computer has a CD-burner that is accessible, but an usb-port... sure.

[dex Otaku]

I use HiMD -almost- exclusively for audio. In emergency situations it's handy to have it as a USB drive, however, it's far too slow for everyday use.

[ROMBUSTERS]

the data errors on an MD disc are usually next to nothing:

while the discs may physically become damaged and thus not work (same with CD-Rs or HDD) MD players make sure the data is written correctly, this is also the reason it is somewhat slow.

In fact MO media can write at least 3x faster than it currently does. This is because MO discs, including MD, write in a 3 phase apporach:

-heat disc with laser

-write to disc with magnetic head

-verify data and move on

even if you stripped out the verification (something you wouldn't necessarily want to do) you would notice a speed increase in the writing abilities. However it is also this verification that protects agains lots of errors

[Guest tony wong]

or to a CD ( just leave your CD in the sun for a while).

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I do think u r talking cdr but not cd, right?

[ROMBUSTERS]

no the plastic on any CD will warp in direct sunlight

[Guest tony wong]

no the plastic on any CD will warp in direct sunlight

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can u explain more?

what I am trying to say is : cdr dye will actually be affected very much by sun light

yes, after putting the dye side of a cdr directly under sunlight for some time(this I am not sure should be how long)

ur data will be gone

but it should be different for cd

the layer(metal?) will not be affected by heat/sunlight that much like cdr do

I do think if u want to erase the data of a "pressed" cd with direct sunlight

it may takes days or even months, or even impossible(this I am not sure)

Edited February 23, 2005 by tony wong

[ROMBUSTERS]

look

it doesnt matter about the reflective components the fact remains that the majority of what makes up a CD is plastic. Plastic warps and melts under heat, like sunlight

[Guest tony wong]

look

it doesnt matter about the reflective components the fact remains that the majority of what makes up a CD is plastic. Plastic warps and melts under heat, like sunlight

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that kind of plastic will melt under sunlight?

r u joking?

[Fat Tires]

Although it's never happened to a CD I've owned, I've seen a few CD that were ruined by sitting in a hot car on a summer day. Heat from the Sun can ruin almost anything made of plastic, including CDs.

[Guest tony wong]

Although it's never happened to a CD I've owned, I've seen a few CD that were ruined by sitting in a hot car on a summer day. Heat from the Sun can ruin almost anything made of plastic, including CDs.

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let's return to the topic pls

[Fat Tires]

Tony, I was responding to your query.

that kind of plastic will melt under sunlight?

[Guest tony wong]

Tony, I was responding to your query.

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the topic all along the way is taking about data/audio

and "Hi-MD stability to store data" is a sub-track

u can never associate with "plastic melt under sunlight" with that, rigth?

[ROMBUSTERS]

oh god shut up everyone shut up! lol i use my himd for both audio and data as it serves my purposes for music and small file transfer

[Fat Tires]

This thread has served it's usefulness.