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From where did  u get that information? Just tell ...

If ur information is correct still then u may not be using ur player for such a long period.New player will come into market by that time  & To ur information a year consists of About 8760 HOUR ,SO r u going to listen to the player all the time.I don`t think so

But all NW-400,500,600 have continnous OLED display,So why not A3000

At 8760hours, and even listening to the player 8 hours a day, you can easily get easily 3 years out of the player, assuming the battery last and no other parts bust.

Even so, getting 2.5 years out of the player shouldn't be a bad deal. I don't think I will change my NW-A3000 when I get it anytime soon. Sure once sony releases something better and I need more room, then ya, perhaps I will get one, but until then, 20 gigs is enough for me.

blastocyst, I tend to agree with your points. Battery life is what is important in DAPs, and even though it would be cool to look at the photos of the covers, at 2"x2" size, it is useless.

The reason the ipods have hacks is their popularity, if the new HDD players pick up and sell well, there is a chance more people will play with software for them. There are some hacks for minidisc units, to unlock some features, not sure how good they are, would need to check out the sister site, minidisc.org.

Jadeclaw the one review of the A1000 on amazon.co.uk states the player has rather amazing sound quality, and I wouldn't doubt that since it is Sony we are talking about here. I should have mine this week, so I will post my comments as well regarding sound quality and etc.

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"Even listening to the player 8 hours a day"

U can only imagine that u can listen to that period for so long but practically it is not advisable at all & it is impossilble as well(There is a lot of work to be done around).Listening to that period for so long will render anyones hearing capacity(permanent hearing loss).Doctors advices to stop player(like discman,walkamnetc) after every half-hour.

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U can only imagine that u can listen to that period for so long but practically it is not advisable at all & it is impossilble as well(There is a lot of work to be done around).Listening to that period for so long will render anyones hearing capacity(permanent hearing loss).Doctors advices to stop  player(like discman,walkamnetc) after every half-hour.

I listen on average up to 4-6 hours with my minidisc daily, 3 hours for commute, and up to 2-3 in between classes and sometimes even during class. :ol_bah: My hearing is fine. I only blast a few songs up from time to time if I feel like it, but normally the volume isn't loud, it is average. I am at school everyday, with the same commute time everyday, and somedays either shorter listening at school or even longer, every alternating friday and thursday, I average between 4-5 hours of listening at school. So it is possible to get up to 8 hours daily no problem.

There is a decibal level when hearing loss begins and I am sure if you listened to a music player at a high level for 3-4 hours, you coud do serious damage, but I on average hear more people's music around me when on the bus since they have their volume set to quite a loud setting.

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I don't understand why the display is such an issue. Color is useless on a DAP and eats up battery life -- I always thought the black&white ipod displays looked cooler than their color ones.

I don't know about the iPod, but a Toshiba Gigabeat that I played with was fantastic. The colour screen was sharp, the displayed materials well designed... browsing tracks was a lot more interesting than letters of one colour on a background of another colour. The colour screen just adds to the excitement. I don't know about anyone else, but I much prefer a colourful WindowsXP environment to the old MS-DOS thing. I see the DAP colour screens the same way. Going from monochrome HD1 to colourful Gigabeat, is like taking the leap from an MS-DOS environment to an XP one. "Music is just better in colour..." :ol_biggrin:

It is not essential, but it can be useful, and browsing the menus is more fun. Lame reasons? Sure. But sometimes, it's the small things that make the difference.

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I listen on average up to 4-6 hours with my minidisc daily, 3 hours for commute, and up to 2-3 in between classes and sometimes even during class. :ol_bah:  My hearing is fine. I only blast a few songs up from time to time if I feel like it, but normally the volume isn't loud, it is average. I am at school everyday, with the same commute time everyday, and somedays either shorter listening at school or even longer, every alternating friday and thursday, I average between 4-5 hours of listening at school. So it is possible to get up to 8 hours daily no problem.

There is a decibal level when hearing loss begins and I am sure if you listened to a music player at a high level for 3-4 hours, you coud do serious damage, but I on average hear more people's music around me when on the bus since they have their volume set to quite a loud setting.

Good ,Ascariss.Since ur in school than u have a lot of time to listen but i my case i`m preparing For some competitive exam & i also need to keep up for the college as well ,so i don`t have so much of time to listen.On average i listen about 1 hours of music daily.

Happy listening ...

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Good ,Ascariss.Since ur in school than u have a lot of time to listen but i my case i`m preparing For some competitive exam & i also need to keep up for the college as well ,so i don`t have so much of time to listen.On average i listen about 1 hours of music daily.

Happy listening ...

Well school in my case is 3rd year university and I also have exams, finals start 2nd week of december. :ol_biggrin:

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hi, i' m a linux user, i would like to know if it's possible to add mp3s to thi player without sony software and able to play them....

thanks

But the question arises how will u be able to install Network walkman .I don`t think there is any driver compatible with linux.So if network walkman is not detected then u will not be able to do anything .

But if any how it is able to detect then u will need to try whether u will be able to tranfer music with "mp3 file manager" .But remember network walkman r not tested under any other software except for windows.I

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sorta similar question to the one above, and a couple others...

looking for a 20gb player, don't want an ipod or anything else really (iaudio have the dirtiest interface in existence, creative have no battery life, ipods are fugly, crap battery, expensive and i dont want to be part of "the scene")

should i get an NW-A3000 or an NW-HD5?

what are the key differences between the two?

can i select to play just music from a specific artist in either?

in all honestly i like sonic stage but i use it purely as a music transferer, not a player or ripper, if connect can be used purely as a transfer medium, then its fine by me...

And thats about all i need to know...

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sorta similar question to the one above, and a couple others...

looking for a 20gb player, don't want an ipod or anything else really (iaudio have the dirtiest interface in existence, creative have no battery life, ipods are fugly, crap battery, expensive and i dont want to be part of "the scene")

should i get an NW-A3000 or an NW-HD5?

what are the key differences between the two?

can i select to play just music from a specific artist in either?

in all honestly i like sonic stage but i use it purely as a music transferer, not a player or ripper, if connect can be used purely as a transfer medium, then its fine by me...

And thats about all i need to know...

I think u should see both Nw-a3000 & nw-hd5.As there is not much difference when it comes to sound quality.Yes in both the player u can select specific artist....

Huge difference that u will find in both the players when u will see them first is size &weight (when u touch it) .Size & weight of NW-A3000(182gms) is more as compared to NW-HD5(130gms)

Review for NW-A3000 is here

http://www.atraclife.com/index.php?showtopic=412

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although essentially the same, the hd5 is smaller in size, has a metal case instead of plastic and weighs less.

you can use ss3.2 and 3.3 for the new players no problem, some fuctions will not work though. price wise, i am sure teh hd5 will be cheaper if the a3000 is released where you are located.

battery life should be above average for both, and storege wise, each is roguhly 18 gigs since that is the actual capacity. you can make folders if that is what you mean by selecting artists, but as far as I know the a3000 has better menus and selection.

supposedly the a1000/3000 are supposed to come preloaded with some songs so you can test out the sound quality from the get go.

if possible try out both, if you can't get your hands on one unit, then you will have to make a personal choice of which looks better and what you want in a player, small weight and silver case, or newer model but bigger.

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im not really worried about the design weight etc of the sony nw-a1000, i jst want something different than a nano... :D

only concern is the 'connect' program, are there any errors when transfering songs on to the mp3 player?

afer readnig this

The software offers the iTunes style option of manual or sync connection to your device (i.e. the NW A3000) but I found that after transferring 200 or so tracks the process would hang indefinitely. The only way to stop it was to detach the NW A3000, which resulted both in the database on the NW A3000 being corrupted and Connect Player not opening when I tried to reuse the software. The only way to get the program open again was to delete the library folder in the All Users\Application Data\Sony Corporation\Connect Player path, which meant that there were now no tracks imported. Lastly I tried to import the tracks and manually transfer them to the NW A3000, but although Connect Player seemed to import the tracks ok (it takes about 4 hours to do 4200 tracks, far longer than in SonicStage) after closing Connect Player, it took 5 minutes to open again and then froze completely. I simply could’t open it without scrubbing the library again

thanks :)

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If weight & size is not the problem then u should go for new NW-A1000.As "Ascariss" ahas already told that u can use sonic stage 3.3 with NW-A1000 without any problem .With only some features disable(which r not that important).U can use sonic stage.3.3 till sony upgrades connect(when u can use it easily).Don`t worry sony will definately upgrade connect as they have already given first update.So we r hopeful that they will upgrade it further in few days.

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I just found this Walkman Gallery site that's for a Sony sponsored rock photo exhibition in London. The site has a link to a big Flash presentation on the new Sony Walkman at Sony UK

They trying to do anything to sell their new walkman.Good Marketing strategie.

There are lots of thing to be seen .Thoughts of product designer(Mr Morisawa),Theme planner(mr Takashi),Design Manager(Mr Tasukazaki) .Art & downloads like MAKING OF WALKMAN,The music(there is music of 30 sec download & full download many more things like archive walkman.

BASICALLY SONY IS IS SAYING "walkman is reborn in 2005" but do u think it was dead........

Kidding

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Just pre-ordered mine, well fully paid, and once it comes in, all I do is pick it up. I choose the silver model, sales rep told me he saw and used them at a conference back in august and says they are amazing, granted he is bias but he did mention the user interface is a nice touch and so easy to use. they just started pre-orders yesterday, so he told me I will be the first in 5 people to get one in vancouver.

Crossing my fingers it's tomorrow.

also forgot to mention, there is supposed to be a special A3000 colour to be sold exclusive to the sony store, blue, the same one as the A1000 I believe.

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Hello, E-Zero "G-SENSOR" is really an important feature as wellll.But it seems that people haven`t understood what G-sensor is..............

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Mostly anyone who owns a computer knows that hard disks are sensitive to impact. For active, portable use, the features specially developed G-Sensor technology that enables the hard drive to resist impact*5 in order to protect your valuable music or other data. G-Sensor monitors and calculates the gravitational velocity of Nw-a3000/1000(series)in its three dimensions and clears the recording head away from the hard drive when the unit receives physical impact during operation. As a result, recorded content is protected from potential scratches to the hard drive surface.

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Sony is holding a Walkman gallery in London at the moment

(named Can You Handle It?), more information can be found at:

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,390...39194070,00.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/...1636004,00.html

Can You Handle It? runs from November 11 to December 9 at the Sony

Walkman Gallery, 10 Greenland Street, London.

Anyone planning to go??? Share the impressions later

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I think someone has already posted these links.

Definately I will go .If I get a free air ticket to (to & fro)london...................

Ru Going nbaki82? :ol_biggrin:

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nbaki82=sorry for the confusion i have created

As i clicked twice on "submit modified post", two posts were made that doesn`t mean that the the link u have given doesn`t work.Thanx for the links .

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Hi everyone...

İ would like to ask you some questions about the NW-A1000 mp3 player.. Because i want to buy it very much...

1)First of all how is the quality and durability?

2)Does it have sound limiting feature which NW-HD3 have.. But the problem in NW-HD3 can be solved by a button combination trick.. İf there is sound limiting feature in NW-A1000, can it be solved by a thing like HD3..? After all how is the quality and the highness of the sound? how is it when we compare it with the HD3??

3)How is the battery durability? How long can it be alive with the highest sound and with the mp3s constant at 192kbps.. And how many charges can the device have in its life time?

4)İs g sensor really works??

5)How is the earbuds? what is the model of them?

6)İs the keypads lights changing according to the devices color? which one what color or just what colors??

Thank you very much....

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indeego, are the new units on sale already? both the 20 and 6 gig versions? Online and at retail stores?

Just watched the commercials and the making of the commercials/info about the new walkman.

And dare I say, I want it even more now. :ol_biggrin: No player on the market can compete with the looks of this thing.

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Sony finally is pushing out advertisment over here.

I have to say I like the campaign:

Sony.de Advertisement (klick first point for high bandwith, last for low)

btw:

Av-Watch offers now a review of Connect and NW-A**** series

I think they given more stress on marketing of the player then quality of there software

First they will put advertis.. then they will release player .Why do they don`t understand that these pic .. doesn`t do justice to these beautiful Art work(I`m taking about a1000/3000)

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1)First of all how is the quality and durability?
Ans1=Quality of Sony products are X-Lent .Except for the software every thing is good.

2)Does it have sound limiting feature which NW-HD3 have.. But the problem in NW-HD3 can be solved by a button combination trick.. İf there is sound limiting feature in NW-A1000, can it be solved by a thing like HD3..? After all how is the quality and the highness of the sound? how is it when we compare it with the HD3??

Ans2= Yes, These new walkmans A1000/3000 has sound limiting feature(as told by some people).But i`m afraid that there no tweak right now to solve it.

3)How is the battery durability? How long can it be alive with the highest sound and with the mp3s constant at 192kbps.. And how many charges can the device have in its life time?
Ans3=Acc to Sony In atrac format battery life is about 20hours for A1000.But sony doesn`t give any battery life with different codecs this time.So u can ask the person who is using A1000 player.

Battery can be charged about 500 times...(Sony claims)

4)İs g sensor really works??

Ans4= I`m not sure about that .IN MY CASE MY NW-HD3 FELL FROM A HEIGHT OF 10CM & ITS HARD DISK WAS DISLOCATED.BUT SONY CLAIMS G-SENSOR WORK EVEN IT FALLs FROM A HEIGHT OF 100CM OR 1M.

G-sensor basically notes the gravitational velocity or Accer(9.8m/s2) during a free fall & It calculates the distance of fall three dimensionally(In X,Y & Z coordinates).

5)How is the earbuds? what is the model of them?

Ans5. This time sony has given colour cordinated headphones.Except for that nothing is different they r same as they gave with nw-hd5 or hd3 .In my opnion headphones given with the player suck.Therefore i will recommend u to buy one.

I`m not sure about ur last question............

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indeego, are the new units on sale already? both the 20 and 6 gig versions? Online and at retail stores?

Yes and no. Mediamarkt already seems to have them, Sonys OnlineStore has for now just a blue NW-A1000 and other onlinestores don't have any of them .. I think Sony will assure availability within the next weeks, after all its christmas in one month ;)

Just watched the commercials and the making of the commercials/info about the new walkman.

And dare I say, I want it even more now.  :ol_biggrin: No player on the market can compete with the looks of this thing.

Yes, the walkman looks really nice, but I have to get my hands on it .. but I think I'll stick with Hi-MD at the end .. like always :ol_cool:

@Stuge:

I hope Sony will push out the second version of Connect-Player soon and eliminate the troubles users have experienced with version 1.x .

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