Harper Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 What is Sony's deal against convenience. FIRST we have the MP3 problem.And even now they refuse to allow simple Drag/Drop MP3 support. You still need to use their program like Sonicstage to import the files.My second complaint is the battery issue. Ni-MH are almost up to standard Alkaline capacity and you can now buy chargers which will charge almost any standard Ni-MH standard in 30 minutes or an hour. And special batteries in as little as 15minutes. Then get 20-30 hours out of them!!! That is why I stick with my 800! Ill take the convenience or rechargeable NiMH and have the comfort of knowing Energizers are everywhere in an emergency.I ended up getting a second mp3 player just because sometimes I dont want to wait to listen to an mp3 lecture to take an hour to be converted before I can listen to it. And I only recently switched to a GameboySP with its lithium battery because I needed one with a backlight bad enough.I REALLY hope that there is a 2nd gen recorder which uses AA internal coming. I wont deal with a AA battery external pack. It sort of defeats the great compact size! My 800 gains only about 1/4 inch because of an internal AA and is inherently more sturdy than having an external compartment which also is a bit bigger. Phillip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamewing Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 What is Sony's deal against convenience. FIRST we have the MP3 problem.And even now they refuse to allow simple Drag/Drop MP3 support. You still need to use their program like Sonicstage to import the files.My second complaint is the battery issue. Ni-MH are almost up to standard Alkaline capacity and you can now buy chargers which will charge almost any standard Ni-MH standard in 30 minutes or an hour. And special batteries in as little as 15minutes. Then get 20-30 hours out of them!!! That is why I stick with my 800! Ill take the convenience or rechargeable NiMH and have the comfort of knowing Energizers are everywhere in an emergency.I ended up getting a second mp3 player just because sometimes I dont want to wait to listen to an mp3 lecture to take an hour to be converted before I can listen to it. And I only recently switched to a GameboySP with its lithium battery because I needed one with a backlight bad enough.I REALLY hope that there is a 2nd gen recorder which uses AA internal coming. I wont deal with a AA battery external pack. It sort of defeats the great compact size! My 800 gains only about 1/4 inch because of an internal AA and is inherently more sturdy than having an external compartment which also is a bit bigger. Phillip←I am SO with you brother!!! My first MD was the MZ-R70. All aluminum and AA rechargable. Since then I have used the gumstick batteries because I wanted an all aluminum case. Since Sony has dropped an all metal case on even it top of the line models (NONE of the 2nd gen HiMD have a full metal case) I no longer need to look at the top of the line models. Something that records and uses AA seems to fit the bill. I will stick with my NW-HD1 for playback of my lectures and language classes.As to why Sony dropped a full metal case on even their top of the line model, I have no clue. Is cost cutting THAT important to them? I guess they feel that puttting in a low-res camera (and removing everything but download capabilities) as more important. I hope Sharp lisences the HiMD technology and puts Sony to shame with a nice Auvi HiMD unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stamp Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) maybe its just that the "general household income to technology pricings" ratio is shortening.Note that the ratio is much greater in japan (due to extreme land values, income is much higher. SO, technology SEEMS cheaper to them, but to us its the same price (or more expensive if theres more features). so they add more expensive features in japan.)So im either saying a) the average household is in fact losing the battle with cash inflation, or electronics, materials are becoming more expensive due to environmental costs / labour. Edited April 12, 2005 by The_Stamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrulesok Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Is cost cutting THAT important to them? I guess they feel that puttting in a low-res camera (and removing everything but download capabilities) as more important. ←Is a metal case THAT important? If I had the choice between metal and plastic, where the plastic was cheaper, I'd go with plastic. Of course I don't want somthing that will break upon touching it, but I feel that there is a happy medium of a strong plastic case. Having said that it is yet to be seen if sony have found this with the 2nd generation, here's hoping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyther Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Isn't the DH10 metal front and back? Plastic is cheap and easier to manufacture as compared to metal fabrication. Saving a couple of bucks per unit is going to add up to thousands in the long run. Plastic or not, I'd rather they stick with gumsticks. The 2nd gen Hi-MDs are already too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harper Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I Still prefer Ni-MH AAs to any Nicad, Gumstick or not. Ni-MH are alot better than Nicads and I just wish sony would either go to Li-Ion or go back to AA formfactor so we can use NiMh AAs. I dont like being without power and waiting for hours for a built in battery to charge.I can leave a NiMh trickle charing and have a battery ready any time and even almost anywhere! Cant do that with Gumsticks. I will not buy a 2nd Gen unless they make a version that uses AAs AND has recording capabilities! Ill go bnack to my 707 and NetMD before I by a gumstick version.Sorry folks, just my opinion! >> 2nd gen Hi-MDs are already too big.I dont agree. Besides. AA formfactor builtin, instead of the gumstick only adds about 1/4 to 1/3 inch bump in the back. NOT A BIG DEAL, IMHO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 love a gumstick. low profile is more important to me, especially if there is a AA adapter. it's not like i bang it against stuff to try & damage the AA connector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyther Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 There have never been NiCd gumsticks used in MDs AFAIK. Only NiMH gumsticks of different capacites. NC-7WMs have been non-existant since the last century adds about 1/4 to 1/3 inch bump in the back. NOT A BIG DEAL, IMHO!That is kind of a big deal :x It's taking away the space where my 2 dollar coins would otherwise be. And it's not just the size, AAs are darn heavy too. Don't you think sacrificing features for battery form factor is a bit too extreme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamewing Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Is a metal case THAT important? If I had the choice between metal and plastic, where the plastic was cheaper, I'd go with plastic. Of course I don't want somthing that will break upon touching it, but I feel that there is a happy medium of a strong plastic case. Having said that it is yet to be seen if sony have found this with the 2nd generation, here's hoping!←Yes, that metal case IS that important to me. Not only that, but plastic feels cheap and this is important when spending $200.00 on a little device. I don't want my expensive MD unit to feel like it came out of a cereal box. Also, how much more does a metal body add to the total cost of the device? More importantly, when folks look at a MD unit made of plastic (esp. the downloaders and players) and compare them to iPod mini (aluminum body), both of which cost around $200.00, customers are going to FEEL like the solid little mini (in addtion to the popular name) is a better deal. Is it really a better deal? Who knows, but we all can see which devices sell the most.Also, the AA doesn't add much to the shape and weight of the MD unit. Also, how does having a AA hump, take away feature sets from the device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMPlitude Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Yes, that metal case IS that important to me. Not only that, but plastic feels cheap and this is important when spending $200.00 on a little device. I don't want my expensive MD unit to feel like it came out of a cereal box. Also, how much more does a metal body add to the total cost of the device? More importantly, when folks look at a MD unit made of plastic (esp. the downloaders and players) and compare them to iPod mini (aluminum body), both of which cost around $200.00, customers are going to FEEL like the solid little mini (in addtion to the popular name) is a better deal. Is it really a better deal? Who knows, but we all can see which devices sell the most.Also, the AA doesn't add much to the shape and weight of the MD unit. Also, how does having a AA hump, take away feature sets from the device?←bump* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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