lewpei Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I am looking to purchase a non MDLP mini disc recorder. I have a MDLP model now. I have ordered the MZ-RH10 so I will have MDLP & MP3 covered but I need a non MDLP recorder by any manufacturer to record some of my favorite music.If you have an older working model you are not using or would like to replace with a newer model PM me with details.Tks.Lew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatomis Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 What could a non-MDLP recorder do that a MDLP compatible one couldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I have an R-37 in more or less good condition. Interested? I just hope the price is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewpei Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 What could a non-MDLP recorder do that a MDLP compatible one couldn't?←Xatomis a MDLP unit will not record in real SP but the SP you record is the same bit rate as LP2. Real SP is a higher bit rate than MDLP SP and sound much better.Hope that helps you, would like to be more tech but beyond my little knowledge on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatomis Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 (edited) Are you sure you don't mean a non-HiMD recorder? IIRC HiMD recorders are the ones with the modified (lower bitrate) ATRAC3plus SP recording mode (~256kbps) compared to the original ATRAC SP mode (~292 kbps). MDLP recorders ADD the LP2/4 recording modes in addition to the original SP mode.In any case ATRAC3plus is the next generation of the standard, and the FAQ purports that there should be improvements in sound quality even at lower bitrates. Even then, your HiMD recorder records in PCM if you're really concerned about sound quality. I guess I don't really understand the rationale of buying another recorder based on older technology for a ~36 kb improvement. Edited April 17, 2005 by Xatomis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 The MZ-NH700 / MZ-NHF800 recording in real time in SP mode [using the most recent Type R codec] and are available for around $200CAD brand-new. This would give you a piece of new equipment that supports ATRAC SP [with the newest ATRAC revision] that is also MDLP, netMD, and HiMD-capable, as well as having optical, line, and microphone inputs like your RH10 already has. Incidentally, the R37 is a good SP-only unit. No type-R, but it has good accessable controls [including switches for some things rather than menu functions] and a metal case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) Xatomis a MDLP unit will not record in real SP but the SP you record is the same bit rate as LP2. Real SP is a higher bit rate than MDLP SP and sound much better.Hope that helps you, would like to be more tech but beyond my little knowledge on the subject.←Lew, any MDLP unit will record in real SP *IF* you do it through the inputs, and NOT the USB. Honest, man. False SP is only achieved through the USB port and SonicStage. As much as I'm willing to sell you the R-37, you'll be throwing money away if your MDLP machine can record through the input. Are you sure? What's the model of your MDLP Unit? Edited April 18, 2005 by Syrius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerodB Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 In terms of sound quality - Any unit with type R or type S is your best bet.Type R was introduced into a couple of MDLP recorder just prior to NetMD. These included the R501, R909, and R910 if my memory serves me correctly.Type R was available on all first gen NetMD, Type S on second gen NetMDs and first gen HiMDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 If I'm not mistaken,Type R = a version [improvement] of SP encodingType S = a version [improvement] of MDLP decoding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerodB Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Yes that is correct dex. Type S will encode SP exactly the same as Type R. So whether you get a Type-S or a Type-R unit, the results for SP will sound the same. (LP2 and LP4 are said to sound better on a Type-S unit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerodB Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Also, IIRC, the MZ-R500 and MZ-R700 can be hacked via the service menu to enable ATRAC Type-R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtunes Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 how would the mz-r30 and the mz-r700 compare?my main use is outdoor sfx recording. im not sure how well the r30s are holding up now into 2005(10 years after their release), but from what i understand there is actually a lineout on the thing, metal case and mic sensitivity switch on the unit itself not in a menu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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