Flexis Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) Well, after taking very good care for my RH10 for the last 2 week's almost never letting it out of it's wallet I dicided it was time to clean it a little.There where some smudges on it but nothing more.I wiped it clean with some slightly moist piece of cotton.Guess what... now there are all these tiny microscopic scratches that are clearly visible in the right light condition's.Common this thing scratches nearly by looking at it,I was so carefull.I wouldn't even dare to try that touthpaste trick on the RH10.Are there any good product's recommended for thisI've rounded up a few and any experiences with these product's or similar product's are wellcome.-Cellular phone scratch remover (I think this is too rough) Displex-Novus plastic scratch remover (this looks promising) Novus-something alike without the cloth Janvil-Icleaner (this also looks promising) IcleanerI really hope to see those scratches dissapear again Edited June 15, 2005 by Flexis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Is it possible that you scratched it yourself by using a cotton cloth?Cotton can be abrasive; kind of like very, very smooth sandpaper. Maybe Rh10 owners could try dusting with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexis Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Yes I scratched it myself probably. And the worst thing is I got a "GBA sp" too and I never clean the screen with anything else then those special "instanet" cleaning tissues for glasses witch work's perfect.I was however so dumb to not do that with my rh10. I now need to find a way to get rid of the scratches again.Please have a look at my link's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexis Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Also look here Novus for more detail's on the novus fine scratch remover.This looks most interesting to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matheis Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 toothpaste works pretty well, too. just put a small dab of toothpaste on a q-tip, get very slightly damp, and rub in circles over the scratch. took out some scuffs on my mz-n10 lcd cover with this method (at the prompting of a minidisc t-boarder, back in the day). might be worth a try with the rh10. certainly a better price than a ~$15 "scratch removal kit"! just make sure you use regular toothpaste and not the baking soda or whitening kind - they'll have more grit and could lead to more fine scratches. regular toothpaste is very fine and worked well for me.good luck!nikolausps, after that put a plastic cover on it!!! i got a couple of small, fine scrathces on my rh10 recently. i just cleaned it off with hot breath / shirt method & palced a palm pilot screen protector over the left half of my rh10. visibility is not impaired (or at least not much) and i feel confident that it will protect the oled well and for quite some time.Also look here Novus for more detail's on the novus fine scratch remover.This looks most interesting to me.← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastianbf Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) I read a about a month ago a simple method to remove the micro (not big) scratches from my swatch wath "plastic glass". I think that the material used in the front of the mzrh10 is very similar to that. Use a towel (a soft one) and put some brasso on it. Now, polish your rh10 with that. It works very very good with my watch (the little scratches disappeared!) and it's a simple and cheap solution. Try that. Let me know if it works for you too.Sebastiancheck the first posts in here:http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/printthread.php?t=22693 Edited June 15, 2005 by sebastianbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 (at the prompting of a minidisc t-boarder, back in the day)←That was me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matheis Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 oh...so you're molater, eh! i think i knw that at one time but fogrot. that was before the mdcf had taken off & the t-board was all the rage with the cool kids well, thanks then worked like a charm! That was me. ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewpei Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 To clean my RH10 I use a microfiber polishing cloth I picked up at the local $1.00 (BUCK) store and find it real good. I have used these for years now on all my stuff including my Sony 707 digital camera and have never had a problem.I know you all have "DOLLAR" stores in your area and they all sell "MICRO FIBER" cloths for a buck. These are the same item as shown on E-BAY for $4.99.Try them I am sure you will be impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexis Posted June 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 I live in Belgium and I don't know where to get to get that microfiber cloth.It is good for cleaning but won't get rid of any scratches.Also I will not use toothpaste on my RH10 as the plastic surface is so soft I'm sure it will only get worse.I'm talking about those microscopic scrtaches like the one's that show upon your car when looking at it from an angle on a sunny day.I will probably order the Novus Kit with all three bottles bacause I have lot's of delicate plastic stuff around the house anyway.I've actually just ordered a mastercard to be able to buy online, I was considering getting one for some time but this pushed me over the edge.I suppose I will have the product in about a month and I will post the result's here.I will first try it on my cellphone as it is totally scratched up anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kginder Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Sorry been meaning to post this for awhile now, haven't had the time. Drop everthing and use this. I've been using this on everything from gameboys, phones, to minidisc players and remotes for years.Get Mequiar's Mirror Glaze numbers 17 and 10. I bought em from an online car parts place (don't remember).Use a que tip and gently rub the scratches with 17. DON'T USE ON THE LETTERS! Wipe off with a tissue. Que tip number 10. Wipe off with a tissue. Takes seconds.It restores the clear plastic to new. And I mean it!Keep buying minidisc players so Sony will keep makin' em'!Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexis Posted June 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 (edited) I'll have a look at that.Do you have any before and after pictures?That would be interesting you know.I really don't want to make it any worse. Edited June 17, 2005 by Flexis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGB2 Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 (edited) I think that this problem is simply because of the nature of the OLED.OLEDs on decks (Radios, CD players, MD decks etc.) scratch fairly easily, even when using a cloth specificaly designed for cleaning sensetive optical items such as glasses and camera lenses. I generally clean then with a slightly damp cotton cloth (or not at all if possible!)I don't think it's a fault of the design, just one of those things.Screen protectors (for use on digital camera LCDs) may be a good option.Cheers. Edited June 20, 2005 by MDGB2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I think that this problem is simply because of the nature of the OLED.←I don't believe this for a second. I think that this problem is simply because of the nature of the plastic Sony used on the unit's face. The OLED itself is not the entire face, and the entire face has the problem.Considering the cost of the unit, Sony could have put an extra $2 in manufacturing them to include a scratch- and reflection- reducing coating much like they use on eyeglass lenses. I would note that my NH700 has a clear plastic face which is highly scratch-resistant. After almost a year's use the display is unscratched and most of the visible wear on the unit is the silver finish wearing off to expose the plastic body underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexis Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I agree, why would the OLED have anything to do with the quality of the surface.Anything transparent could have been used and they choose really soft plastic for no reason at all and didn't bother to include a protective coating.For the price of the RH10 they should have at least done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I have the RH910 and it's already full of scratches. I'm accepting it as a fact of life and i really don't much care. I mean, I do but I can't fix it. It's got lots of character though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I have experience with Displex, it works very well, tried it on a completely blind fully unreadable cellphone display, after the treatment, it looked like new.But be careful on printed areas, since it takes material off to smooth out the surface, it also takes off anything printed on. However, I would start using it only after the surface becomes seriously scratched.I highly recommend selfadhesive PDA-protector foil, cut down to size, before the rig gets scratched up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwbarrett_jr Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 When I received my rh910, the first thing I did out of the box was put a Write Right protective film on the reflective part, including the display. These are the protective sheets used on PDAs. They were expensive ~$14 US, but I believe the package contained 10-12 sheets which have a grid to aid in cutting down to size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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