ronca79 Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 hi allI need a little help.I tried today to record on my MZ-N505 a new album.This album has 20 songs .After the software finished tranfering all songs,I discovered that only few are playable ...(about 10 good songs and 10 corrupted songs).for example,I press play on track number 12 and the md is stuck till I choose another track....I press play on track number 13 and it's OK ...SO .... I erased the disc and tried to record the same disc again .Now I can hear track number 12 but track number 13 is corrupted ... BTW, it was a brand new MD...anyway, I replaced the disc with another brand new discand it has the same problem ... I have the latest MD software (web installer)and my windows has all updates.I thought maybe I need to clean the lenses butTHERE ARE NO PROBLEM WITH PLAYING OTHER DISCS !!!what can it be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogon07 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 (edited) Were you using SonicStage or SimpleBurner to transfer the record/CD?Normal(SP) or LP2.Perhaps you could try using the other software method to see if the problem is still there.There several brands of MD head and lens cleaners available such as Sony, TDK and Crest. One of those may help. Edited August 14, 2005 by bogon07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 I had some problems with the openMG jukebox 2.2 ..so I installed the latest SonicStage (web installer)and the problems are the same.There are same problems with both LP2 and LP4 ..I didn't try recond on SP.all i'm asking is...Is there a possibility I need to buy a new MD player??? or can I fix mine ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 BTW ..what cleaner should I buy ?head cleaner / lenses cleaner ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 There are a lot of cleaners: they're shaped like a MD, you just pop them in. I'm not recommending these retailers, just thought I'd show you some links. Shop around. Sony makes one:http://www.x10.com/electronics/allcategori...ny_MD-8HCL.htmlTDK makes one (though this seems like a high price):http://www.audiocubes.com/product/TDK_MD-H...ns_Cleaner.htmlMaxell makes one:http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDeta...gcfkmdffhdfif.0Even RadioShack makes one:http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?cook...duct_id=44-2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogon07 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Ronca79,Try the MD head/lens cleaner first, it is cheaper than a new MD recorder. I think head or lens is the same thing for MD equipment.As A440 said they look just like a minidisc. Have you tried a different brand of blank MD.Are you recording from a CD or importing MP3s ?If you are importing the songs to Sonic Stage (3.2 is the latest) have you tried listening to the songs on your PC to see if the later ones are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Is there a possibility I need to buy a new MD player??? or can I fix mine ??? ←How old is the N505 and how heavily was it used? If it has seen a lot of use it may indeed be on its last legs. If you are considering cleaning the lens that is a very good start, however, you should also clean the OWH (over-write head) as well. There are separate discs (as well as 2-in-1 discs) that can do this for you. I prefer to do manual cleaning myself (q-tip + rubbing alcohol) but you should know what you are doing before attempting that. The lens is easy enough to clean this way but the OWH can be quite tricky and often requires the removal of the lid of the player (which I would not attempt if you do not know what you are doing). If you're unsure it is better to go with a commercially-available cleaning disc. If cleaning fails to clear up the problem and the unit is well-used and out of warranty, it is certainly plausible that you'd need a new unit. On the plus side, if the N505 still plays fine you could use it as a player upon getting a new unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 well...you asked so many questions ... so I have to answer all ...A440 ...thank you for these links but,you said that you're not recommending these retailers ...so what do you recommand ???bogon07 ...I tried new disc and I still having the same problems(for now 2 brand new discs was fucked up ... so I think it's a player problem).I'm importing MP3s ... and the originals files are OK.MDX-400I opened my player and tried cleanning the lens (q-tip + rubbing alcohol)... and it didn't help I opened my player several times cause the buttons didn't work.I did it quite well cause my player was 100% OK after my repairs.can I fix this head ???I can do it by myself, I just need some pictures/explanations ...can you help me more ???thank you all guys ... I'm waiting for your replays !P.SI live in israel and it's very expensive around here(I'm a non-working studend )anyway, MD is not that popular ...and I don't know yet where I can find the discs for cleaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogon07 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 ronca79,If you are feeling very brave you could try consulting the service manual for the N505. It is down near the bottom of the page under "Minidisc Service Manuals" not the User manuals so you can see which parts MDX-400 refers to but take note of the warning that you could disable your Minidisc in service mode. http://www.minidisc.org/part_Manuals.htmlAs you were importing MP3, could some of them be encoded slightly differently to to the earlier ones? I've had a few which would not transfer across via SonicStage but that is slightly different from your problem where the seem to transfer but are unplayable. Try erasing one of those new discs and then recording or transferring some completely different music or albums on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 hmmFor several years I'm using the same software to encode/decode my audio files.I tried to erase the disc and to put other songs on itand I still having the same problems.these problems happened in openMG 2.2 and also in the latest SonicStage.I will try to look on the manual (thank you for this link)maybe I will find something useful ..i'm going mad !!!why is it recording sometimes good and sometimes bad ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I just finished looking in that manual ...Overwrite head is mention twice...and there are no instructions how to clean it can anyone explain how to clean the overwrite head ???MDX-400 ???ARE YOU THERE ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I just finished looking in that manual ...Overwrite head is mention twice...and there are no instructions how to clean it can anyone explain how to clean the overwrite head ???Yep. If you simply open the lid of your unit as if you were changing discs and look up at the lid of the player, directly above where the lens is (because the OWH is physically connected to the pickup sled) you will see the OWH.It is a very small (and therefore delicate) part. It is a little white square with a very small metal square within that. (Just like a cassette deck's record head, if you remember what those look like! Only a LOT smaller.)You simply have to gently clean that in the same manner as the lens. If the OWH is bent or misaligned in any way then that will cause problems too. That is why you have to be careful not to do that. If you remove the unit's lid you can do an eyeball check of the alignment. With the lid removed and then the frame of the lid closed (or at least lowered) the OWH should be precisely over the centre of the lens. Furthermore the OHW should follow the lens for the entire sled travel--i.e. if you push the sled to the centre the OWH should follow, if you push it to the edge it should follow as well.If all of this checks out and you've cleaned both the lens and the head, and you're certain that it isn't a problem with SS or the files being transferred, I'd say it is time for a new unit (yours could be repaired but with an N505 repair will definitely be more costly that buying a new and better unit, like a HiMD ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I hope you can do it yourself with MDX-400's very clear instructions, since it sounds like you're better at home repairs than I am. If you still want to try the head cleaners, I don't know where to get this sort of thing in Israel. I'd try Froogle (at www.google.com) with the model numbers for the head cleaners. Sony MD-8HCLTDK MD-HLC1SFMaxwell MD-CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Thanks alot fellows.Right now I'm not at home .... and I can't clean it now but,this is the first thing I will do when I come home (2 days from now)!!I will post here to inform you about my player's situation...anyway thanks again .... wish me GOOD-LUCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) OKso I got home and clean the square above my lens...there is no changeI have few more details to tell you:when I tried to tranfer files to my MDeverything was fine till song number 5 (and after it was not good !)my player didn't copy it well ...I heard the song with many clicks and sometimesthe song had some cut offs (for about half a second).after 30 sec of the song it become more stable but the cut off didn't go.what is it ???should I get a new MD player ?or I just need to clean it's head ? Edited August 19, 2005 by ronca79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronca79 Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I cleaned everythingthere is no broken wire ...I think my MD player died !thank you for the help ... bye bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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