MD-->PC on SS3.2

[ghostdog]

Hi,

I downloaded SS3.2 today after previously using SS3.1. It is my understanding that the new version allows .oma files to be transferred between computers yet it doesn't even work on MY OWN computer! To elaborate, I ripped one CD to 255kb ATRAC3+ on my HD. I then clicked on the album in my library and pressed the transfer button to my HiMD. I made sure that the CD ripping settings did not have DRM. I then tried doing a CD->MD transfer directly using Simple Burner (assuming that SB now does not apply DRM).

So these files should now transfer unlimted times to any computer with SS3.2, right? However when I right click on them (in the Hi-MD box) it says "Can be transferred to the original computer" in both cases, surely it should say can be transferred to ANY computer?

Now, when I click the left arrow for the files recorded in SB it says "the selected track originated on another computer" (which is obviously wrong!). When I transfer the files recorded in SS they transfer but they also get deleted from my MD even though on the "Advanced Transfer Settings" I have selected "Leave the tracks in the Disc"

What's going on?!!!

[atrain]

simple burner still applies DRM & afaik always will. sb always gives you a track recorded on a diff. computer error. it's a trade off for not leaving a copy in your library.

[1kyle]

simple burner still applies DRM & afaik always will. sb always gives you a track recorded on a diff. computer error. it's a trade off for not leaving a copy in your library.

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OK you referred to SB which still has this sort of rubbish in it however SS works fine if you take one or two precautions.

SS 3.2 WILL allow you to copy NON PURCHASED NON DRM'ED MUSIC.

First of all when you set up your SS 3.2 did you switch off or disable the setting Apply Protection to music transferred via CD -- Default is Protection ON although why you's want to DRM your own music is beyond me.

Now I've simply with Windows 'Drag 'n Drop' with Windows explorer copied .OMA files between computers and re-imported them into different libraries.

If your set up has still got some SS 3.1 protection junk in it what I would do is as follows.

Use SS to backup your library. DO THIS FIRST

Delete the entire library (from SS). Takes a while depending on how big your library is but stick with it.

Uninstall SS completely.

Re-install SS 3.2 using the links on this forum -- use the SERVER method to download the Installer program and let it connect to the server to download and install the program.

Ensure the "Protection Setting" is OFF.

Now restore your library -- You'll have to be connected to the Net for a few minutes while the Restore does it's validation.

After your library is restored it will do an automatic "Converting Library Files" -- presumably this is to re-set or switch off protection on any of the tracks that have it.

Finally you've now got your "Non Drm'ed" music.

You might have to do this procedure on any other computer you've got -- but you can use the same "Backup Library" you made to restore to the other computers.

You'll find now you can copy tracks wherever you like -- I've backed mine up to DVD -- Imports and plays fine on 6 different machines --no probs whatsoever.

(All this assumes you have NO PURCHASED MUSIC -- "ICHOONES (is for 'Loones') ", CONNECT or whatever -- and have essentially your own recordings and "ripped" CD stuff).

Note if you have stuff backed up / copied on to a DVD you don't need to keep it full time on your computer -- when you want to burn a MD just restore the relevant tracks from the DVD to the library (Re-import) --doesn't take long and then transfer to your MD.

You can then delete the music again from the computer.

OK it's an extra step but it works.

I really don't use SB any more now that SS 3.2 has made "Multi-Computer" use OK.

Cheers

-K

Edited August 27, 2005 by 1kyle

[zoe]

simple burner still applies DRM & afaik always will. sb always gives you a track recorded on a diff. computer error. it's a trade off for not leaving a copy in your library.

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see?

its little things like that make life very confusing for us technological ignoramuses. now that i know i look forward to a much more harmonious relationship with my little MD.

BUT...can any of you tell me why my tracks don't appear in the SS library when i import them from MD? (see my post below...where do they go? why is it pretending? is un- and re-install AGAIN the only option?

and did you guys just answer ghost-dog 'cos his name is cooler than mine?

[ghostdog]

well thanks for that kyle, I did what you said with the exception of not restoring the library meaning I have no files in my library in the newly installed sonicstage. I then try to import a CD to my library and that works OK. I then transfer it to MD and STILL get the rights info "Can be transferred to the original computer" rather than any computer. ARRGHHH! I then delete my library (which justs consists of that CD) and then attempt to put a track form the MD to the computer but it says "Tracks that do not exist in My Library are selected, do you want to delete the specified tracks form the device". Of course I press no! What is wrong with this, why is this software so inpenetrable, infuriating and useless (compaed to my mate's Iriver for example which has drap and drop windows and imports winamp playlists). Is the problem really that proper MD transfer is still not possible, when I right click on the info for files in my library that have been transferred from CD it says "Remaining transfer count - Unlimted, Remaining ATRAC CD transfer count - unlimited, Remaining audio CD transfer count - unlimited" it doesnt mention MD transfer, you guys all seem to be talking about transferring tracks to DVD/CD from one computer and then from that DVD/CD to another computer but has anyone done it with a MD?

The hours Ive wasted on this now are no joke! Oh yeah and someone please acknowledge zoe too, she seems a little left out !

[Keith]

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Hi Zoe!

Keith

[ghostdog]

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Hi Zoe!

Keith

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ok thanks but that means you'd essentially have to have two copies of MD - 1 to listen to the music and 1 to transfer it while you can listen to and transfer with the same CD. What I want is to have playable music on my MDs and then delete the original from my HD, if I wanted it back on any of my computers I could just transfer from my music MD but it doesnt look like this is possible without utilising twice as much space. Infact couldn't the technique you described have been used with any SS version? I really dont see the bonus of SS3.2 for MD users.

[zoe]

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Hi Zoe!

Keith

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hello!

thanks for letting me play!

that link to one of kyles solutions unfortunately doesnt seem to address what we have all been wasting time on....

it seems that SB doesnt like SS, and SS will never be able to import tracks burnt to MD using SS. right. got that.

but this whole thing that ghostdog is talking about is doing my nut in....it SHOULD do it! i got to that same stage where SS asks you if you want to leave the tracks on the MD after transfer. When i said yes, there was no transfer, but when i said "bugger it, no..", all it did was delete my tracks and 'pretended' to transfer them to SS library....BUT THEYRE NOT %$^&* THERE.

i know that the big thing with SS3.2 is that it is really good for live recording transfers (gotta be happy with that...just a few little bugs left...), but i wiould still like to be able to swap my tunes between discs without having to keep everything in the library as well.

is that too much to ask?

i will send two of my best lacy G's to anyone who can sort this out for me!

Zoe.

Edited August 28, 2005 by zoe