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Hi FF, >Forum Friends<

I have MDS-JE 470 deck since year 2002 , and i like it a lot, - but now i'm thinking of getting a MZ-RH 910 S [i'm in Canada].

Would any of You who has this model Please share Your opinions , the Pro and Cons of this model. And what is the difference between 910 model and 910 S. ??

Thanks in advance, for Your time :)

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Hi FF, >Forum Friends<

I have MDS-JE 470 deck since year 2002 , and i like it a lot, - but now i'm thinking of getting a MZ-RH 910 S [i'm in Canada].

Would any of You who has this model Please share Your opinions , the Pro and Cons of this model. And what is the difference between 910 model and 910 S. ??

Thanks in advance, for Your time :)

Human

i have the regular 910, so far i have no problems with it. its a lot better than the older minidisc i had before. there is only con i have with it, no back light (but i really don't care about that)

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Thanks to You GregTheRotter and to dvs for Your replay.

I've just got e-mail back from SonyCanada and the "S" stands for Silver as You Greg were suggesting.

They said that no "B"lack" available.

dvs - You are saying that it has no 'back light' , - so it is impossible to see the display at night, [must i carry mini flash light] - hmmm - ??? -

Some times when i dream .... i dream of HiMD unit to have 2 small but very good high quality speakers attached [but removable] on each side of the unit, so You can carry like a cassette-walkman and listen to, or to remove the mini speakers. But the idea is not to have extra speaker cables hanging around, ect., .....

I have small portable Sony digital radio AM/FM (ICF-M 280) model, that uses 2 AA batteries [i use rechargeable Energizers] and i love this little radio with digital pre-set stations, when i listen to radio talk shows on AM i take it with me when i move around my apartment, and from my regular stereo i play back ground music from CD or from my MD-deck. Cause i must have music playing all the time when i'm home, most times (98%) when i go to sleep i leave the music playing, [many times at normal volume].

I like listening to radio talk shows {..if You chose good once >like www.coasttocoastam.com< for example, You can learn a lot of interesting stuff..} but i can't stand having no music also at the same time playing in the back ground.

So to have HiMD with detachable speakers [if it was a cradle like for iPods should be small & slim /like cassette walkman\ - not bulky ] ..so You can easy carry around, .

I will be looking to buy a pair of small >attached< speakers , --- any suggestions from You "FF" [ForumFriends] as to Mini- attached speakers battery and AC/DC powered with decent sound quality, ...???

Thanks so HiMDmuch :)

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If you need on-unit display to be backlit, you should just go with RH-10 and save yourself the grief. However, having said that, if you can get yourself a RM-MC40EL on the cheap, say about $50-60 USD, then go with the RH910. Outside of the OLED display, the two units are virtually the same when it comes to the critical stuff (Digital Amp, HiMD compatibility, MP3 and ATRAC playback).

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ThnX Damage, -

Maybe You are right - that the MZ RH-10 Hi-MD is the way to go.

The RH-910 i'm getting form Sony as a exchange for my Sony ZS D-55 portable Stereo with

line In/Out RCA type jacks, remote controlled everything = CD , radio

including cassette tape recording via remote)

but that unit was in repair twice (once with CD player second time with cassette deck) -

and Sony Canada here in Vancouver /Coquitlam B.C. is so nice to deal with , and they tried

to fix it but the whole cassette deck is shot --- and since i could not find any similar SONY portable

or even Mini System Stereo with those features and after Sony delivered at 2 different occasions two different units and me eventually returning them.......

.....Sony is so nice and allowing me to switch to what i want in price range of my old ZS D-55 of $ 300.00

i paid almost 3 years ago that is on Extended Warranty ( i love Extended Warranty - also 5 years ago i had Mini Stereo System from Sharp with MD deck in it >>from London Drugs store here >>, and after

almost 3 years it was breaking down [3 times] and i got exchanged for Sony MDFS-JE 470 deck -

so in my opinion Extended Warranty is worth the money for sure) - so maybe i should pay

extra difference and get the MZ RH-10 Hi-MD ---

as You Damage are suggesting.

The RH-910 cost in Canada is $ 250.can, and the RH-10 is $ 400.00 can

And i think MZ RH-10 Hi-MD has a very good opinions -???-

The difference for me will be of $ 100.00 and besides the backlit display it has remote control .....

....and is black colour ==> WOOW ........ Well maybe You are right Damage.

I like that both of them they have "line in jack" - so i don't have to use computer and i can record

my music from CD player or from radio talk shows on Hi-MD disc and edit radio commercials.

The way i plan to use this Hi-MD is to record my CDs direct from CD player and listen to it via

regular stereo speakers at home or at work or to connect small mini speakers but i do not listen

to music via head phones.

I wonder about music sound quality on Hi-MD. So far i don't mind sound quality on my MDS-JE 470 deck recorded even in L4 format --- i wonder if sound quality will be the same (or better or lesser ) on Hi-MD

if i like to record 20 or more CDs on it ??

I will look/search for threads on this Forum for info on RH-10 ....but i think it has ONLY good comments, No Cons.

Thank You much :))

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well .... just moments ago i was reading here post /answer to my question by ::: KJ Palmer - but now this post is not here any more , - hmmm??? strange ? - in any case i will include my ansver to KJ Palmer

Thanks KJ Palmer, -

The Hi-MD MZ RH-10 has only this Outputs: Headphone (stereo mini).

I do not have any of my CDs on computer and i'm planning to copy them to a Hi-MD disc from my home Stereo using special cable >"Shielded Y-Adapter-Stereo plug to two phono plugs"< via line-in jack and i was thinking to play that Hi-MD via my home Stereo via big speakers - via in this case Output Headphone (stereo mini jack). Will this be possible - ?? - and will the quality of sound will be quite OK , let's say as it is in LP2 - or LP4 on regular mini discs 74 or 80 minutes?.

KJ, - You are saying that ::: - "No direct recording in older formats (SP,LP2/LP4,mono)". - so Hi-MD has only one (pre-set) format / quality level of recording ???

I was under impression that in the "lowest" setting quality i can record on it up to 675 songs (up to 45 hours) , ....but i was under impression that there is other recording setting level with much better sound recording quality with of-course less song capacity and i think i was told in the store with only 8 hours on Hi-MD disc.

Is that correct --- any one of You knows ??

Thank You kindly.

P.S..... here is what i just found moments ago in one of the posts on this Forum by Fray Adjacent Jun 9 2005, 10:40 AM Post #81

::: " As far as the MP3s go, if you have the original CDs, and don't tend to change around what's on your discs frequently, I'd just use Simple Burner to rip straight to disc in ATRAC. Then you won't suffer any loss through transcoding".

-- sounds good to me - the only question i have is this has to be done via computer or can i do it direct from CD player to Hi-MD RH-10 ?

Thanks so much :)

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KJ, - You are saying that ::: - "No direct recording in older formats (SP,LP2/LP4,mono)". - so Hi-MD has only one (pre-set) format / quality level of recording ???

I was under impression that in the "lowest" setting quality i can record on it up to 675 songs (up to 45 hours) , ....but i was under impression that there is other recording setting level with much better sound recording quality with of-course less song capacity and i think i was told in the store with only 8 hours on Hi-MD disc.

Is that correct --- any one of You knows ??

The current Hi-MD recorders (including RH910 and RH10) can record in three quality settings, namely PCM (1.4 Mbps), Hi-SP (256 kbps) and Hi-LP (64 kbps). A 1GB Hi-MD disk can hold 1 hour and 34 minutes, 7 hours and 55 minutes or 34 hours respectively in those formats.

When you record through your pc you have a choice of more bitrates (including LP2 and LP4).

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To record from your CD player, you have to connect CD headphone out to MD line-in and record in real time.

But you can put the CD in your computer CD player, connect the MD unit with the USB cord, and copy the songs from the CD to the MD much faster with the Simple Burner software.

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The current Hi-MD recorders (including RH910 and RH10) can record in three quality settings, namely PCM (1.4 Mbps), Hi-SP (256 kbps) and Hi-LP (64 kbps). A 1GB Hi-MD disk can hold 1 hour and 34 minutes, 7 hours and 55 minutes or 34 hours respectively in those formats.

When you record through your pc you have a choice of more bitrates (including LP2 and LP4).

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Big Thank You eriktous and A440

for Your info.

Please clarify for me this:

I was thinking that when recording directly from portable CD player[or from home Stereo unit] or talk shows from radio to Hi-MD i can record in different bit rate of recording (three quality settings).

Are all those three setting given by You eriktous are they also possible when recording directly from CD player or from radio via line-in jack on to Hi-MD player/recorder like MZ RH-10 model ???

In this case i would love to be able to record my CDs into Hi-MD directly (with out computer) in Hi-SP (256 kbps) 7 hours and 55 minutes - {that should be very good medium level sound quality}, --- And to record radio talk shows in the Hi-LP (64 kbps) 34 hours.

That would be great for my needs.

Is this combination of recording levels possible with out using computer - ??

Thank You FF {Forum Friends} :)

P.S. quote:::"When you record through your pc you have a choice of more bitrates (including LP2 and LP4)".

Are those bit rates LP2 and LP4 the same as Hi-SP (256 kbps) and Hi-LP (64 kbps) just named diferently in Hi-MD format--?

1-st./edit:

A440 - yes the speed or recording my CDs via computer as suggested by You is good option - so i understand that with out computer i can ONLY record my CDs in real time -? , - also i like to record what i have on my normal Mini Discs to Hi-MD disc connecting my MDS JE 470 deck to RH 10 - ?? that would be possible of course, but do i have to do it also in real time or is there an option for speedy transfer and will i have options for different sound bit rate of recording ...let's say i have around 65 regular mini discs with radio talk shows recorded in LP4 format and i would like to transfer them to a few Hi-MDs to keep in one place and also as a back up.

2-nd./edit:

when i record radio talk show to Hi-MD disc on RH-10 model - is there an option on RH-10 to do editing of recorded material, like removing radio commercials, etc., same editing opitons i have on my JE-470 MD deck--?

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Are all those three setting given by You eriktous are they also possible when recording directly from CD player or from radio via line-in jack on to Hi-MD player/recorder like MZ RH-10 model ???

Yes, these three modes are available when recording through line-in or mic-in. (I'm not sure about optical-in. I would assume that PCM is blocked for optical recordings, to prevent you from making perfect digital copies of cd's, but I can't find anything about it in the manual.)

In this case i would love to be able to record my CDs into Hi-MD directly (with out computer) in Hi-SP (256 kbps) 7 hours and 55 minutes - {that should be very good medium level sound quality}, --- And to record radio talk shows in the Hi-LP (64 kbps) 34 hours.

That would be great for my needs.

Is this combination of recording levels possible with out using computer - ??

Yes, this is possible.

P.S. quote:::"When you record through your pc you have a choice of more bitrates (including LP2 and LP4)".

Are those bit rates LP2 and LP4 the same as Hi-SP (256 kbps) and Hi-LP (64 kbps) just named diferently in Hi-MD format--?

No, they aren't. Hi-SP and Hi-LP are Atrac3PLUS codecs, while LP2 and LP4 are Atrac3 codecs. LP2 is 132 kbps and LP4 is 66 kbps. You can find more about the different available bitrates in the user manuals for the Hi-MD recorders, which can be found on the main site.

For instance, look at the manual for the MZ-NH900. On pages 101 and 102 there is a table with recording times for the different bitrates.

http://www.minidisc.org/manuals/sony/Sony_...tion_manual.pdf

so i understand that with out computer i can ONLY record my CDs in real time -?

Yes, you play the disc on your stereo and let your MD unit record while it plays.

also i like to record what i have on my normal Mini Discs to Hi-MD disc connecting my MDS JE 470 deck to RH 10 - ?? that would be possible of course, but do i have to do it also in real time or is there an option for speedy transfer and will i have options for different sound bit rate of recording ...let's say i have around 65 regular mini discs with radio talk shows recorded in LP4 format and i would like to transfer them to a few Hi-MDs to keep in one place and also as a back up.

I have no experience with a MD deck, but my guess is that it will have to be done in real time too.

when i record radio talk show to Hi-MD disc on RH-10 model - is there an option on RH-10 to do editing of recorded material, like removing radio commercials, etc., same editing opitons i have on my JE-470 MD deck--?

Yes, you can edit on the unit itself. Have a look at one of the manuals I referred to above. Only manuals for first generation units are available, but it will give you some understanding of what is possible with Hi-MD units.

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Thank You eriktous for Your detailed info, it helps.

I was also looking at AudioCubes site and found few interesting portable MD players / recorders, and one of them is Panasonic SJ-MR50 MiniDisc Recorder with a build-in speaker, ---

I almost never listen to music via earphones or head phones, (only some times), so i like to be able to properly connect the portable MD to a good quality small portable speakers or directly to a real stereo system at my work place or when visiting friend(s) to a home stereo.

- do any of You know any thing more about this Panasonic SJ-MR50 model ---??.

I like the idea of build-in speaker, ( but it is not necessary if it is not decent or good quality), as i said i'm planning to get decent portable speakers, - so i can carry them with me if i go to visit friends or to take them with me to and form work every day ( do You have any suggestions on small but good sounding portable speakers as well ?)

eriktous You have couple of nice machines especially the NH-900, I was reading about the NH-900 it also has a line out setting that allows the user to output the sound without any effects on the sound. There is also an analog/optical input along with a mic input.

But i can not find any new ones for sale, i think this would be good choice for me, ...i think ??

Thank You ALL for helping me :)

Please share more info if You have.

Definitely i need a unit with real proper "line-in and line-out" jack- or at least to have the unit set up by factory to be compatible to play via real stereo receiver using earphone mini jack.

But tasdisr in his post "connecting RH10 to stereo" said that it was quite Ok on his stereo --- but GregTheRotter did not like it. Hmmm, ???

If not, ... i will get really good portable speakers that will work nicely using headphone mini jack on the unit. But for recording to MD from "any source" [with out using computer] would be nice to have proper "line-in" jack.

As to editing on the portable MD unit i could pass that and edit on my MDS-JE 470 deck (as long as the recorded on portable MD unit md's will play on both units with out problem).

*** i was suggested by people on the::: www.audiotstation.com/forum::: to get the MZ-B10 or MZ-B100 model , ....but i'm not so sure about them yet.

Thanks again friends :)

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