mz-nh600...i need some questions answered

[two.tread]

i nmight buy a mz-nh600

questions:

1. can i use rechargeabel aa batteries in it?

2. can you skip albums and artist at a time? i dont want to keep pressing forward until my thumb hurts..lol

3. how loud does it go, the (uk version) ,with the ordinary sony headphones supplied with it?

4. what are the main things the newer ones have that this one doesnt?

thaks,

pease reply soon

[Tamaritha]

1. can i use rechargeabel aa batteries in it?

-- Yes you can use rechargeable Ni-MH batteries with it. I think these last for around 25 hrs (?) with the NH600.

2. can you skip albums and artist at a time? i dont want to keep pressing forward until my thumb hurts..lol

-- Yes and No. Technically, you can, by either using the circular dial, or it's a matter of pressing a button which skips a folder where the albums are in through the remote, but I understand most NH600 models aren't sold with a remote.

But really, in order to skip by artist or album, you've got to group them into artists/albums or even playlists through Sonicstage, and whether you would like to do that in order to have the joy of skipping is really up to you.

Technically you *Can* shuffle things through the MD... but why would anyone who want to skip things at the press of a button go through the bother?

3. how loud does it go, the (uk version) ,with the ordinary sony headphones supplied with it?

-- This I've no idea. The stock headphones won't do anything to boost sound quality though, so must be whatever the unit standard is set at.

But really, why would anyone want to follow the footsteps of certain iPod users being run over by public transport because they were too busy admiring their earphone quality?

4. what are the main things the newer ones have that this one doesnt?

Lots of things, and the tiniest of technicalities separate them via miles. The fact that Sony never kept anything consistent regardless of whether it worked or no in terms of design and certain fundamental functions, it's really difficult to say what one has as opposed to another model, and what makes it vastly better. There are some sub-forums containing reviews and criticisms, it's a good idea to visit and read up.

On the surface scheme of things...

-- The 700 had NetMD capabilities, which this doesn't have. the 700 also comes in a variety... er well a choice of two colours: blue and silver.

-- The F800 has whatever the 700 had, plus an AM/FM radio attachment on the supplied remote, which was really a bitch to use due to its awkward positioning of radio on/off button, and with the tiny holding clip, made it abysmally heavy. Supposedly has better sound than 700. Oh, and did I tell you about how the remote didn't have a backlight? Comes in a bluish-grey plastic colour.

-- The 900 had versatility: it used a gumstick as well as an external AA battery case, so that if your gumstick ran flat, you could always carry the cheaper AA batteries as spares. Could twiddle level of recording. Had even better sound than previous models. Comes in aliminium silver.

-- The NH1 can do a date/timestamp on the recordings, uses Li-ion battery, which looks like two gumsticks hammered together. It can be charged either through the USB port of your computer or the stand it may/may not come with. The main display was moved to the remote, however the remote is only for the model, and without the unit-specific remote, the grouping/programming/shuffling functions cannot be performed.

Better efficiency in using blank Hi-MD discs though - up to 900, you required to connect it to its charger to get down to some heavy transferring/recording.

The stock earphones that comes with the remote is of a better quality than the previous ones.

Comes in two colours: a dorky scratched magnesium silver and a much nicer champagne gold.

.. That's the simplest response to it. Thing is, if you're just a casual user and don't give a damn about the more technical nature of the Hi-MD players (which is why people actually buy them), you might want to look into other areas. Hi-MDs in general have superior recording and playback qualities to most devices, and I've seen many student - professional musicians using it as a low-budget high quality REALLY EXPENSIVE recording device.

... Oh, and if you're planning on using it in the same way as the student-musos, The idea is to get a single head condenser microphone that costs from US $400 upwards - the idea apparently is that the T-bar microphones can't even record up to the average CD player ( which is at 30 000 Hz limit as opposed to say, 15 000 Hz limit of Sony's ECM-D570P). The MDs tend to make mechanical noise while recording...well and generally accessing the disc, so you get a really long connector cable to position it as far away from the MD as possible.

[two.tread]

i thought the nh600 was a netmd thing,

i thought that when you send songs through usb that makes it netmd.

so i cannot skIp through albums on the player?

how do i put my artists into a group such as:

alkaline trio...and all my alkaline trio albums in that group

then

blink 182.. and all my blink albums in that group

how do i do that?

so if i bought a mz-nh600 and did this playlsit thing, i could skip through my artists alot easier.???

and one more thing: do the names of the track appear on the screen i theya re sent using usb???

thanks for all the help

[Tamaritha]

oh wait, yes , net-MD does really mean that it can be connected via USB. What the 600 can't do is record directly through a mic input, and naturally, the net-MD capabilities are limited in that you can't transfer said recording back into computer for manipulation...

And another sleepy oops: the on-the-fly recording level changes can be made from 700 above, though from what I understand, NH1 is just better at it...

EDIT:

The playlist matter is a Sonicstage thing rather than the actual MD Player. Relax. The MD comes with an instructions booklet. It's not difficult to use, you don't have to know about it till you get the MD. Personally, I've never bothered with it and preferred to grit my teeth through Sonicstage.

No, names of tracks do not appear while sent using USB - while Sonicstage may highlight them and show transfer progress, the MD itself displays "PC-Link".

Edited December 16, 2005 by Tamaritha

[two.tread]

oh wait, yes , net-MD does really mean that it can be connected via USB. What the 600 can't do is record directly through a mic input, and naturally, the net-MD capabilities are limited in that you can't transfer said recording back into computer for manipulation...

And another sleepy oops: the on-the-fly recording level changes can be made from 700 above, though from what I understand, NH1 is just better at it...

EDIT:

The playlist matter is a Sonicstage thing rather than the actual MD Player. Relax. The MD comes with an instructions booklet. It's not difficult to use, you don't have to know about it till you get the MD. Personally, I've never bothered with it and preferred to grit my teeth through Sonicstage.

No, names of tracks do not appear while sent using USB - while Sonicstage may highlight them and show transfer progress, the MD itself displays "PC-Link".

sorry,

you misunderstood the question:

when yu play the tracks do they display the names?

[Killroy]

i thought the nh600 was a netmd thing,

i thought that when you send songs through usb that makes it netmd.

For tracks downloaded from PC, it behaves like a NetMD in terms that you can neither edit this tracks nor upload them to another computer. Tracks recorded on the NH600 itself can be managed in (almost) any way you like. Possible, that you mixed up the NH600 with the NH600D, which is a pure NetMD unit that cannot record any track.

so i cannot skIp through albums on the player? how do i put my artists into a group

The unit has capability of sorting and accessing the tracks through title, artist and album - that's what the "navi"-key is provided for.

and one more thing: do the names of the track appear on the screen i theya re sent using usb???

All track infos appear in an alternating mode on the display.

In my opinion, the major difference of the NH600 to most other (albeit more expensive) models is, that it does not have a microphone input and is not that useful for field recordings therefore.

Cheers - Killroy.

[two.tread]

so if you press the "navi"-key

will i be able to go from my artists begining with 'A' to my artists begining with 'B'in a few clicks?

thanks

[Tamaritha]

so if you press the "navi"-key

will i be able to go from my artists begining with 'A' to my artists begining with 'B'in a few clicks?

thanks

...Anybody actually counted the number of clicks involved? Well technically to select the sort by artists option, you do need to use the dial button, so I wouldn't say clicks...

[two.tread]

i need to clear something up, im no t sure if people are understanding my question,

i want to be able to press 1 or two buttins to go from my first artist on the md to my second artist on the md?

how would i go about doing that, is it possible?

thanks

[KrazyIvan]

You would need to group your songs. You need to create folders named XXXartist, xx2artist, and so on then drop your songs to the corresponding artist in each folder. The shuttle dial/Group+/- button on the remote would then be used to navigate between the folders during playback. Vioala, artist navigation!

Edited December 16, 2005 by KrazyIvan

[Killroy]

i want to be able to press 1 or two buttins to go from my first artist on the md to my second artist on the md?

If my logic still works OK, you'd need a unit with many, many keys, or a touch screen to achieve this. A MD device like this has yet to be designed and built...

As an approach, you could organize your tracks so that the album name matches the atist's name and each album contains only tracks from that artist. With the navi-key album list function, you should be able to locate your favourite artist very quickly then.

Cheers - Killroy.

[two.tread]

im a bit confused here,

so i cannot jump through albums at a time without using a remote???? if i can, how exactly do i do this (in very simple terms)?

does the nh600 have a remote slot?

thanks

[KrazyIvan]

im a bit confused here,

so i cannot jump through albums at a time without using a remote???? if i can, how exactly do i do this (in very simple terms)?

does the nh600 have a remote slot?

thanks

Yes, you can do it without a remote. The NH600 does not have a remote slot. The NH600D does have a remote slot.

Here is a picture of the 600D.

See that round thing on the top right. It is a shuttle/scroll button. If I were to turn it while the unit is playing, you would scroll through all the folder names vertically on the LCD of the unit. To start playing a selected folder all I would have to do is scroll until I found the folder I want to play. Then I would push the enter/play button in the center of the scroller.

Edited December 16, 2005 by KrazyIvan

[two.tread]

i didnt quite understand your instructions above though, (artistxx2)???????im confused

could i group them as in create a folder saying:

alkaline trio - good mourning

and put that album in that playlist/folder

then create the next folder as:

alkaline trio - from here to infirmary

is their a button i can press to make it skip from the first album (goodd mourning) to the next album(from here to infirmary)

pelase let me know if this would work,

many thanks adn apreciation for baring with me

[KrazyIvan]

Basically yes. See my edits above^ ( with picture)

[two.tread]

THANK YOU!

i will buy one off ebay very soon

jsut one more thing:

why did you say basicly?

will that method definately work on the nh600 (not 600d)

thanks again

[KrazyIvan]

It should work on both units. The 600 is the one that cannot use a remote.

I am thinking maybe videos on how to do some of this stuff may be very handy. At least it would be easier to explain. Hmmmm, maybe a project I will tackle.

Edited December 16, 2005 by KrazyIvan

[tommypeters]

Yes, you can do it without a remote. The NH600 does not have a remote slot. The NH600D does have a remote slot.

The European NH600 has a perfectly wonderful remote slot.

[KrazyIvan]

The European NH600 has a perfectly wonderful remote slot.

Since when? http://www.minidisc.org/images/sony_mznh600_silver_mymd.jpg

I have always known that the US version 600D (which I did own) had a remote port but did not have line/optical input nor the DC input. The Euro version (600) has line/optical/DC input but no remote and a crippled amp.

Edited December 17, 2005 by KrazyIvan

[tommypeters]

Since when? http://www.minidisc.org/images/sony_mznh600_silver_mymd.jpg

I have always known that the US version 600D (which I did own) had a remote port but did not have line/optical input nor the DC input. The Euro version (600) has line/optical/DC input but no remote and a crippled amp.

I've never heard of an Euro NH600 without remote port - here's one of my three NH600:

[two.tread]

when and where did you buy your nh600?

i am in the uk so i would like to know if i can buy a remote.

what is the model of your remote as well.

thanks

[tommypeters]

I bought my NH600's in Sweden late this summer when it was a real blow-out sale (USD$50 + $12 VAT). That remote is the MC33EL from my N910, I also have a MC35EL and a MC40ELK, bought from eBay (Rapidelectronics in Australia).

[two.tread]

to whoever sugested making a video of a tutorial on this subject!

yes, that would be grear and i think that would help a lot of people choose whether to upgrade to hi-md players or not, or at least choose which hi-md player they are going to buy.

please look into it.

thanks

[KrazyIvan]

I've never heard of an Euro NH600 without remote port - here's one of my three NH600:

I stand corrected . Does it have the line/optical too?

[RobA]

Hope you enjoy your nh600, I currently have the US version (nh600d) and love it. And just to clear something up, you can use search mode on the nh600. So without even using folders (I use only 1 folder for all my music) you can sort through everything you need in ABC order by Artist or by Song name. It works perfectly. For example it may look something like when searching throug artists.

Adam Sandler

Avril Lavigne

Blink 182

Britney Spears

And say you selected Blink 182 then it would look something like this.

Adam Sandler

Avril Lavigne

Blink 182

-Song 1

-Song 2

-Song 3

Britney Spears

Just by scrolling with the jog dial you can go through all the artists and songs, very convienant.

[two.tread]

thanks everyone,

i think when my nh600 arrives, i will try outting my folders like this:

blink 182 - enema of the state

blink 182 - TOYPAJ

and so on

but if that doesnt work then i will jsut try the artist search way.

just one thing,

how do you actually create a ''folder''?

[tommypeters]

I stand corrected . Does it have the line/optical too?

Line in, but no mic in - but it worked to use my N910 as a pre-amp for the mic.

But now I have bought both NH900 and NH1, so recording is more direct that way.

The only bad about the European NH600 is the capped volume, you can partly circumvent that

by hacking the unit to believe it's from another part of the world, but the maximum output

voltage is anyway lower than normal so you will need sensitive earphones if you want it

sound loud.

[KrazyIvan]

Line in, but no mic in - but it worked to use my N910 as a pre-amp for the mic.

But now I have bought both NH900 and NH1, so recording is more direct that way.

The only bad about the European NH600 is the capped volume, you can partly circumvent that

by hacking the unit to believe it's from another part of the world, but the maximum output

voltage is anyway lower than normal so you will need sensitive earphones if you want it

sound loud.

Man, why does Sony keep all the good stuff out of the US?

[gazza49]

i need to clear something up, im no t sure if people are understanding my question,

i want to be able to press 1 or two buttins to go from my first artist on the md to my second artist on the md?

how would i go about doing that, is it possible?

thanks

yes it is possable, make a playlist of the artist, create a folder, record that artist into that folder give it a name.

make another playlist of another artist, create a folder , record that artist into the folder, give it a name.........etc