"Transfers not Allowed" <_<

[atmos929]

Ok... I've been trying to solve this for 4 days now, and I am just running out of ideas, besides the last move which would be to Format my system and reinstall everything from scratch... which I dont want to do.. my system works great, except for sonicstage...

I'm using SS3.3 for a Hi-MD MZ-NH700 Updated from 2.1 when it stopped working due to a certain windows update thing) on a P4 2.0 GHz, 512 MB RAM, WinXP Pro (SP1 at first, and then SP2). It worked at first, worked great, last time I used it was like a month a go still with SP1, and then It just WONT let me download music to my Hi-MD AT ALL!!... the error msg?.. "Transfers are not Allowed", and it doesnt even encode the file before trying to send it.

All my music is in mp3s, lots of bitrates from 128 and up, CBR and VBR, never had a problem with it. Tried enconding them into different bitrates of ac3 and ac3 plus (only formats my Hi-MD can play)

I've tried everything, reinstalling, followed the thread in which I have to manually delete all traces, even updated to SP2 against my will, uninstalled ffdshow, tried isntalling the official one by Sony, the MDCF installer, the ss2.1 bundled with my Hi-MD, ss2.3.... and the only difference is that ss2.x pops up an error about "audio format not supported" or something like that, dun remember the exact phrase. I have no idea wut is going on....

everything else works fine, I have no problems playing songs in SS, neither from the library nor from the Hi-MD, I can even use MD simple burner correctly, it encodes from CD and transfers correctly.... Kinda... gives me the idea that is an encoding problem with SS, like... it tries to send them as mp3s... I DONT KNOW!! help!

[The Low Volta]

just a couple of quick questions to see where the prob might be:

- does SS allow you to convert an MP3 to A3/A3+?

- does SS allow you to convert wav to A3/A3+?

- does SS allow you to transfer a A3/A3+ track to HiMD? (if you can't create A3/A3+ tracks you cn't check this of course)

- does SS allow you to initialize/format a disc? If so does this change anything concerning transfer?

- have you checked the prefs (connect the HiMD, tools/options/transfer/himd/transfer settings/advanced) there is an option 'not to transfer' formats that aren't understood by the player, see if this isn't checked and check 'convert to specified bitrate'

let us now the results of these tests and I hope we can help you...

HiMD is too much fun to let it be ruined by SS-troubles

[atmos929]

-does SS allow you to convert an MP3 to A3/A3+?

*failed* Error msg:

Sonicstage (00000908-7209) <-- in title bar of the error window

Cannot Convert the specified track.

Possible reasons may include:

- The track (files) can not be found.

- Sonicstage does not support the file format of the track.

- Track is Copyprotected.

(00000000)

Same thing for both converting to A3 and A3+... tried different tracks, noone is copyrighted, same error.

- does SS allow you to convert wav to A3/A3+?

*sucess* worked fine on converting to both A3 and A3+...

- does SS allow you to transfer a A3/A3+ track to HiMD?

*????* no idea, since I did create A3/A3+ files from the wav, I thought I could add them to the library for me to copy them to download them to the Hi-MD player, but said "Cannot find music files that are not registered to Sonicstage"

*sucess* So I imported from a CD and created A3+ files from it to my library, and had no problems copying them to my HD keeping the format (A3+) and its bitrate, even tried changing to a lower bitrate, and had no problems at all.... seems like the problems is with mp3s only...

- does SS allow you to initialize/format a disc?

yup... this has never been a problem... even creating groups, deleting tracks that are already in the disk, naming the disk, etc...

- have you checked the prefs

yeah, I usually force converting since all my files are mp3s (my hi-MD doesnt play mp3s), into 64 kbps A3+ for space ...

When I imported a CD into A3/A3+ files, used both options "transfer with no conversion" and "convert to specified bitrate", had no probs at all...

so... seems like the problem lies with mp3s... can not convert them into A3/A3+, not when dragging them directly from library to Hi-MD, neither when converting them in the library.

any ideas?

[The Low Volta]

it seems indeed that the problem lies with the MP3's, or more correctly in the way SS handle them

perhaps you could try this:

-remove a bunch of MP3's (one group or something) from the SS-library (but NOT from the PC, make sure that checkbox remains unchecked)

- delete all .omg and/or .oma files from your PC

- reimport the MP3's into SS

- see if this changes their behaviour

um, when you converted the wav to A3/A3+ why do you need to import the files into SS? What I meant was: open SS, import music file (ctrl-O), import a wav or an MP3, search the file in the SS library, right-click, convert format, select the format you desire and uncheck the copy protection checkbox, wait for conversion to happen, after successful conversion it will be showing in its original format but if you right-click the file again and select file info, you will see the different versions/formats the file exists in... so actually it already is in the library

ah, perhaps it could be interesting to check under file info whether the location of the MP3's is correct...the error does say 'could be that SS doesn't find the files'... but you say the MP3's do play in SS so that wouldn't make any sense...

I'm quite baffled, perhaps someone else has any further ideas?

[fishstyc]

it seems indeed that the problem lies with the MP3's, or more correctly in the way SS handle them

Has this been solved yet? Because I have the same problem...

Converted the mp3 to wma lossless and that worked, but uploading the mp3, no luck...

I upgraded from 3.2 to 3.4 btw.

[freebird2003]

hello Atmos,

i also have a similar problem like yours. have your problem been solved.

thanks alot.

[Shingoz]

Thought i'll just share some recomemdations within my knowledge. (Didnt know i got to reg to post haha)

Anyway, for this situation, i would recommend visiting the following web link to upgrade your SS to ver 3.4 (if you have not done so): http://www.css.ap.sony.com/

Thereafter, please try another conversion. If it still fails, the last straw would be the uncheck "add copy right protection" (ver 3.4 allows you to do this).

This should work. Cept that your files will not be encrypted with security settings. Please do feedback if it solved the problem. THanks..

[Shingoz]

Erm has the issue been solved already?

[dex Otaku]

Has anyone tried checking what systemwide MP3 codec is being used, and whether it actually works?

From what I've seen so far, nearly all problems relating to SS not handling MP3s correctly stem from conflicting or broken codecs being installed.

[fishstyc]

Has anyone tried checking what systemwide MP3 codec is being used, and whether it actually works?

From what I've seen so far, nearly all problems relating to SS not handling MP3s correctly stem from conflicting or broken codecs being installed.

All my mp3 files play in any program without a problem. ffdshow is installed, don't know if that might be a reason. It doesn't work either if I disable ffdshow for mp3 (in that case the standard fraunhofer filter of windows should be used, I guess).

Problems started since I installed version 3.4, I never had any problems before, so it seems to me it's some SS problem...

[soulz]

Oh it seems i am not the only one unable to transfer mp3s into atrac. If i can recall i was using 3.3 and it did work fine. But i am not too sure if SS3.4 is the problem.

[ural]

Ok guys I registered only to help you cuz I resolved the problem .

Anyway the reason for which you cannot transfer files is quite simple - AC3filter takesover the mp3 stream and SonicStage cannot transfer the files and convert them.

So here is what you should do:

1. Run AC3filter Config (you might have installed AC3filter with a codec package to watch movies or smth).

2. There will be a "warning". Click on OK.

3. Go to "System" tab.

4. In "Filter merit" choose "Prefer other decoder" (default was "Prefer AC3filter").

5. Click on "Apply".

6. Close the app.

7. Restart SonicStage.

8. Voila!

It should work - anyway it worked for me . It is also possible that another codec smth application has a conflict with it (if you have not AC3filter) - if so uninstall it. If you're not sure if you have AC3filter installed on your system check it in the app list in the Windows control panel.

Hope this helps .

Edited March 30, 2006 by ural

[onepm]

Hi everyone....

i had the same problem with the "transfers not allowed" and i think that the problem has to be with the soundcard. I use a mbox2 and i think the decoder for mp3s is not compatible with Sonicstage. To solve the problem i had to convert the mp3s to wave in winamp and then import them into sonicstage, then it worked.

Take care and good luck!

Peace /ONE-P.M

[gully666]

cheers ural that solved my problems

[fishstyc]

I uninstalled mpg123dsf (which I had to do manually) and ffdshow. No luck.

Tried to clean up as much as possible, also, some other tools I didn't really need. I don't have ac3filter. Nothing helped. Maybe I missed something but so far I didn't find it.

Are there other people with different solutions that worked (and I don't mean "convert to wav first" of course)?

[ural]

Ok guys maybe I'll add another hint. Make sure you don't play any music while starting SonicStage AND what is also important:

1) never copy to the player the file you are listening in the very moment - even if listening in SonicStage!

2) never listen to any music file while copying any file to the player

3) not listening to a file means closing it or stopping - pause is not an option!

4) if it does not help either restart your system and do not run any music program - start only SonicStage!

Anyway the problem is related to music codecs as I wrote in the post before. So if there is no other solution make sure to uninstall all codecs/drivers which were not provided with your system.

[iTor]

Hello everybody! Im new here. I registered just because I am having the very same problem, and have tried even uninstalling every single direct show filter and codec into my system, then performing a clean installation of SonicStage 3.4, only for getting even more dissapointed when I was unable to transfer any files.

I have tried everything and I'm going nuts. I have a lovely minidisc in which I can't put any songs anymore!

I hope the solution to this problem is found. By the way, I heard that SonicStage 3.1 could work here where 3.4 doesn't. Can anyone tell me where can I find this 3.1 version of SonicStage?

Thank you very much.

[michaeljwhyte]

Hello Everyone:

I just bought a new Hi-MD and had the same problem for an hour. I could not transfer files from Sonic Stage 3.4 to a Hi-MD. My problem was easily solved because I realised I had MusicMatch open at the same time as Sonic Stage. As soon as I closed MusicMatch the file tranfer and conversion worked perfectly.

This leads me to believe that the cause of the SonicStage file transfer and conversion problem has to do with a conflict between SonicStage and some other program running on your computer (this program maybe running in the background) trying to use the same codec....Maybe try uninstalling some media player programs and seeing if that helps...just my 2 cents...

tx,

[Guest bmn38]

I've you have installed the Nvidia Pure Video decoder (which I strongly recommend for Nvidia card owners), you have also installed an audio decoder. The name of the decoder is "Moonlight Odio Dekoda", as I've discovered in the Decoder-Settings of the ProgDVB-Software.

In the settings of this decoder (you can find them throug windows Media player - extras - options - DVD (only without a DVD inserted, or you will see a diffrent settings dialog)) uncheck the box with the MPEG Layer III.

And everything works fine.

If you Mediaplayer crashes at the moment you hit okay (seem to be a problem with the german version of the software), try using a diffrent software (as for me, ProgDVD, a TV-Software).

[Gryzor]

I wonder if anyone has been able to solve this? I've been having this problem for ages, since 3.2, and with various Sony devices- from a Hi-MD to an Aura and from an HD5 to the newest Gamma... And indeed I've found out that it cannot -will not- convert to Atrac. I haven't found a pattern, but the problem has gotten worse lately and it SUCKS!

Tried downloading the AC3 Filter and setting the option as described above, no luck. But if it worked for others then maybe it means indeed that there's a problem with some codec taking over? Have not FFDShow installed now, but is there a way to see if there might be something else?

Cheers

Gryzor

[tekdroid]

It just WONT let me download music to my Hi-MD AT ALL!!... the error msg?.. "Transfers are not Allowed", and it doesnt even encode the file before trying to send it.

I get this fairly often with plain ol' standard WAV files transferred to my MZ-NH700 in plain' ol' Linear PCM. Often I'd get some of my selection not transferring, saying transfer is not allowed. Like selecting 10 tracks, maybe 3 or 4 won't transfer, or whatever. Select them again for transfer and they work. Never tried mp3s or ATRAC or any other format, just Linear PCM from standard WAV files.

Edited May 5, 2006 by tekdroid

[Pado]

Ok guys I registered only to help you cuz I resolved the problem .

Anyway the reason for which you cannot transfer files is quite simple - AC3filter takesover the mp3 stream and SonicStage cannot transfer the files and convert them.

So here is what you should do:

1. Run AC3filter Config (you might have installed AC3filter with a codec package to watch movies or smth).

2. There will be a "warning". Click on OK.

3. Go to "System" tab.

4. In "Filter merit" choose "Prefer other decoder" (default was "Prefer AC3filter").

5. Click on "Apply".

6. Close the app.

7. Restart SonicStage.

8. Voila!

It should work - anyway it worked for me . It is also possible that another codec smth application has a conflict with it (if you have not AC3filter) - if so uninstall it. If you're not sure if you have AC3filter installed on your system check it in the app list in the Windows control panel.

Hope this helps .

that did the trick thanks