Hammond Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Which is best-listening? Where is better quality? Thanx... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielbb90 Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 (edited) Atrac3plus = better compression 352 = Higher birtate...So that would say 352 is!Atrac3plus @ 256 is better that Atrac 292 anyway!(Hope that helps) Edited April 22, 2006 by danielbb90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHion Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 (edited) 352kbps for me means awesome clarity and high ends, of course it beats atrac SP !The basses are deeper, fuller, the trebles more precise.Is the only bitrate I can't distinguish from CD quality anymore. Edited April 22, 2006 by Shion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZosoIV Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 From my extensive listening experience (and double-blind ABX testing), I can say that neither are perfect, but suffer from different problems. For ATRAC3+ 352kbps, it is a grainy, electronic sound on wind and brass instruments, and occasionally percussion. I haven't tried, but I would assume that it wouldn't do well with pre-echo "torture tests" like harpsichord or castanet samples, either. ATRAC 292kbps (SP) smears sharp attacks (pre-echo), leading to things like cymbal taps and acoustic guitar sounding thicker and "stickier" than the CD. ATRAC SP also brings the soundstage forward; there's less space between you and the instruments compared to the CD (or even LAME –preset standard). Most annoyingly for a jazz listener like myself, ATRAC SP has an awful time with trumpets; try "Flamenco Sketches" off of Miles Davis' landmark "Kind of Blue" album. There's a nasty, electronic ringing artifact every time Miles blows hard into his horn. That being said, both are transparent 99% of the time – all lossy codecs have problem samples. 352kbps is kind of a ridiculous size, though, for lossy audio when codecs like Vorbis, MPEG-4 AAC, LAME MP3 and MPC (Musepack) hit transparency in the 160-220kbps range. I suspect that ATRAC3+ has the latent potential to be transparent in that range, too, but hasn’t been tweaked enough yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 The easiest answer is record something you are familiar with using both bitrates, and listen to them both with good headphones, or a good quality hi-fi setup. Arguments to which is best are pointless as everyone has different sound percetions and hearing losses.HTHBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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