Beyer66 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 My net-md unit wasn't cutting it for me. not so much because of the disc space,(although 1gb of storage is sweet) but because mine didnt have a mic-in and i really wanted to record(i even tried a sony powered mic and the vol. level was still too low). so i sold it and just got a mz-nhf800, and it's great. i havent tried recording yet, but i am anxious to do it. i almost tried to sneak it into a concert last night and make a bootleg, but i didnt know how much they would really pat me down at the gates, with security being how it is nowadays. (it was a Tool concert at nassau colesium in NY)the only thing about this player that is bugging me is the lack of light on the screen. when i ordered it the description said "backlight" but apparantly there isnt one. i can change the contrast setting, which helps in low light situations, but in the car when i'm playing minidiscs through the stereo it sucks to have to turn the interior light on when i want to see what song is playing. anybody have this player? are there other likes/dislikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyer66 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 My net-md unit wasn't cutting it for me. not so much because of the disc space,(although 1gb of storage is sweet) but because mine didnt have a mic-in and i really wanted to record(i even tried a sony powered mic and the vol. level was still too low). so i sold it and just got a mz-nhf800, and it's great. i havent tried recording yet, but i am anxious to do it. i almost tried to sneak it into a concert last night and make a bootleg, but i didnt know how much they would really pat me down at the gates, with security being how it is nowadays. (it was a Tool concert at nassau colesium in NY)the only thing about this player that is bugging me is the lack of light on the screen. when i ordered it the description said "backlight" but apparantly there isnt one. i can change the contrast setting, which helps in low light situations, but in the car when i'm playing minidiscs through the stereo it sucks to have to turn the interior light on when i want to see what song is playing. anybody have this player? are there other likes/dislikes?ok, i am reading up on this unit and it seems as if the remote is supposed to be backlight with a green light. mine doesnt though. is it broken, or do i need to hit a button to activate it? the manual says nothing that i can find about the light.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I presume you need to change a setting on the remote to activate the backlight. Check the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sector001 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I presume you need to change a setting on the remote to activate the backlight. Check the manual.i can confirm that there is NO backlight on the unit or the remote itself. i had previously owned this model, but sold it to get the NH900.there is nothing wrong with your NHF800.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raintheory Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 i can confirm that there is NO backlight on the unit or the remote itself. i had previously owned this model, but sold it to get the NH900.there is nothing wrong with your NHF800....Yep, that is correct. The stock LCD remote for the NHF800 doesn't have a backlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sector001 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Yep, that is correct. The stock LCD remote for the NHF800 doesn't have a backlight.can other remotes with a backlight like the RM-MC38EL work with the NHF800? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyer66 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Yep, that is correct. The stock LCD remote for the NHF800 doesn't have a backlight.if i do a search of the unit on the web, i keep coming up with pictures of it, like this one :http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Hi_MD_Walkman...7-30963793.htmlin the picture it shows the screen on the remote lit up. that sucks. i thought i was getting that remote when i bought this thing. can i use another remote or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) There's no radio remote that lights up. But other Sony remotes work with the NHF800. The RM-MC40ELK remote will definitely light up its backlight with the MZ-NHF800. It's great for stealth recording, too, since you can see recording level and make track marks with it. But yeah, it's pricey. Other backlit remotes may also work with the NHF800, but I won't be able to get my hands on one to try it for a few days. Does anyone else know? In the meantime, you have an excellent recording unit, especially if you run through a battery module and Line-in. Tool is very, very uptight about recording. You were probably wise not to bring the unit with you, because Tool's own security might actually know what an MD is. But in general you can depend on the ignorance of security guys. More than once I have gotten into a show when my MD is detected by pulling it out of my pocket, showing it to the security guard and saying, Oh, yeah, that's my mp3 player. As greenmachine has pointed out, it looks like a cheesy plastic toy. Of course, my little Sound Professionals BMC-2 mics stay well hidden under my shirt. I may post a Tool recording I recently made with my NHF800. I didn't trackmark that one during the show--just let it roll through the whole set with the unit and remote concealed. How I got it in....well, some things have to remain a mystery. Edited October 9, 2006 by A440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sector001 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 if i do a search of the unit on the web, i keep coming up with pictures of it, like this one :http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Hi_MD_Walkman...7-30963793.htmlin the picture it shows the screen on the remote lit up. that sucks. i thought i was getting that remote when i bought this thing. can i use another remote or not?yeah, that's a stock photo and u can't really trust a picture anyway. believe me, the stock remote or the 800 unit has no backlighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyer66 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 There's no radio remote that lights up. But other Sony remotes work with the NHF800. The RM-MC40ELK remote will definitely light up its backlight with the MZ-NHF800. It's great for stealth recording, too, since you can see recording level and make track marks with it. But yeah, it's pricey. Other backlit remotes may also work with the NHF800, but I won't be able to get my hands on one to try it for a few days. Does anyone else know? In the meantime, you have an excellent recording unit, especially if you run through a battery module and Line-in. Tool is very, very uptight about recording. You were probably wise not to bring the unit with you, because Tool's own security might actually know what an MD is. But in general you can depend on the ignorance of security guys. More than once I have gotten into a show when my MD is detected by pulling it out of my pocket, showing it to the security guard and saying, Oh, yeah, that's my mp3 player. As greenmachine has pointed out, it looks like a cheesy plastic toy. Of course, my little Sound Professionals BMC-2 mics stay well hidden under my shirt. I may post a Tool recording I recently made with my NHF800. I didn't trackmark that one during the show--just let it roll through the whole set with the unit and remote concealed. How I got it in....well, some things have to remain a mystery.i think i would be interested in that recording. was it from this tour? the show last night was really mind blowing. those guys are just amazing. its better off that i didnt bring the thing, because our seats were right on the aisle and this dude from security kept shining a flashlight up the aisleway, and he would have seen what i was doing for sure. anyway i havent bought a mic yet. i have been looking at some concealable stereo electret mics that arent that expensive. i should definitly get the battery powered one, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyer66 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) now that you bring up the universal remote, RM-MC40ELK , i started loking into it and it seems that sony doesnt make it anymore. a guy in australia is selling some on ebay, but i dont see my player model listed on the compatibiliy chart. sonys website doesnt show much either. will this work with my mz nhf800? Edited October 9, 2006 by Beyer66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ghidora Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Not all groups are so uptight about their recording policy. You can check around the net and find out whether a band allows taping or not pretty often. There's a board that deals specifically with this kind of thing but I'm not sure if the people who run this board would be ok with me mentioning them by name. I'm sure you can find out some info on band's recording policies here on this board. Maybe someone else knows if it's cool to mention another board here because that board has a lot of info on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaywardTraveller Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'm not sure this applies to making loud recordings, but it might be worth keeping in mind that if you attach a backlit remote during recording, pushing buttons, changing settings, etc. with it while recording WILL produce hiss and interference on the recording...but more experienced people than I here can tell you if it really matters for a concert recording like Tool.peaceWaywardTraveller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Yes, the RM-MC40ELK works with the NHF800. They make a great pair. For just a backlit remote, without the level meter, I just confirmed that the RM-MC38EL will also work. You can use it to un-Pause and start recording, and you can also add Track marks during recording by pressing P-Mode, same as with the RM-MC40ELK. Others probably will work too.As Wayward Traveller says, using a remote does add a glitch of static during quiet Mic-in recordings each time it lights. This isn't a problem for me with Line-in, because the glitch is relatively quiet, and I only set track marks during applause. You can find the RM-MC38EL pretty cheaply on Ebay. Backlit remotes have EL in the name, electroluminescent. K is for Kanji, Japanese/Chinese character display.There is not a Record start button on any remote. You have to start recording on the unit and (except for RH1) go through menus with recording Paused to set Manual Volume, essential for music. Then leave it Paused until you want to start recording. However, there's enough battery life in the NHF800 so that you can let it sit on Pause, hidden in your pocket, for quite a long time before you hit Pause on the remote to start recording. I use Sound Professionals BMC-2, less than the size of a jellybean, and a Microphone Madness Mini Classic battery module, the size of a car-alarm remote, which provides 9 volts, much more power than a battery operated mic that only has a 1.5V battery. Excellent sound through Line-in. And King Ghidora, if you want to list http://www.taperssection.com or http://www.archive.org or any other recording website, go ahead. Nothing exclusive here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ghidora Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I think you already did A440. I will say that things can get mighty unfriendly on the first of those two boards. Flaming seems to be the rule rather than the exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burns3016 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Yep, that is correct. The stock LCD remote for the NHF800 doesn't have a backlight.I own the NHF800 and the screen is NOT backlit & neither is the radio remote that comes supplied with it. You can however, use other remotes with the NHF800 with backlit properties. But get this ! ..... the decription of the unit that I read prior to purchase stated that the remote WAS backlit ! Alas !Actually, it is EXTREMELY SLACK of Sony (considering the price of these units) to NOT have backlit displays on them as a standard feature. I mean, how much effort would it take. And, in terms of gobbling up battery power, all you need to do is switch it off, except for use at night in appropriate situations. Come on Sony, do your customers have to come up with all the good ideas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyer66 Posted October 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 I own the NHF800 and the screen is NOT backlit & neither is the radio remote that comes supplied with it. You can however, use other remotes with the NHF800 with backlit properties. But get this ! ..... the decription of the unit that I read prior to purchase stated that the remote WAS backlit ! Alas !Actually, it is EXTREMELY SLACK of Sony (considering the price of these units) to NOT have backlit displays on them as a standard feature. I mean, how much effort would it take. And, in terms of gobbling up battery power, all you need to do is switch it off, except for use at night in appropriate situations. Come on Sony, do your customers have to come up with all the good ideas !yeah, i think that the reason i did buy this unit was that i did some research on the web and saw it advertised with a backlight remote. what a bunch of bs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyer66 Posted October 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Hey, they dont make a HI-MD player for a car do they? i havent seen minidisc decks in cars for a while. there are used units on ebay, but a net-md unit wont play hi-md discs, correct? i've seen some nice sony cd decks with an aux-in on the front which i will probably end up getting, i just thought it would be nicer to pop the disc right in and control it from the head unit and not have a bunch of cables dangling everywhere. right now i have to use the headphones if i want to listen to my minidisc stuff in the car (thats really stupid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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