EU considering applying DRM to CD's

[1kyle]

Sometimes I get the impression that the whole of the EU commission behaves just like NERO playing the fiddle (or whatever stringed instrument was available when he was Emperor) whilst Rome was burning.

They have a whole slew of problems to deal with but what do they come up with as a priority - they seem to be interested in forcing future CD's to carry DRM protection.

Apart from the fact that the CD format patent is 100% owned by Philips who have not requested this in any form whatsoever and that CD sales are declining anyway who really is pressing for this stuff.

Applying DRM to CD's would kill the CD stone dead as currently it's the only legitimate way to obtain unrestricted uncompressed WAV music and to distribute it as well. (OK you can get some with special software from Music download stores but these usually come with all sorts of irksome restrictions on copying to other devices etc. etc.)

I'm totally against Piracy but any technology that stops you listening to Music you've PAID FOR or COMPOSED / CREATED YOURSELF on whatever device you please should be outlawed.

Cheers

-K

Edited January 28, 2007 by 1kyle

[The Low Volta]

source/link?

[1kyle]

source/link?

For starters

http://www.silicon.com/hardware/storage/0,...39119040,00.htm

Cheers

-K

[MikeyV80]

Sometimes I get the impression that the whole of the EU commission behaves just like NERO playing the fiddle (or whatever stringed instrument was available when he was Emperor) whilst Rome was burning.

They have a whole slew of problems to deal with but what do they come up with as a priority - they seem to be interested in forcing future CD's to carry DRM protection.

I hate to say this, but EU is US' little child. US is against piracy while there are many other problems the US should head 'cause hese are far worse. But it's business, talking money so it's important enough...

Apart from the fact that the CD format patent is 100% owned by Philips who have not requested this in any form whatsoever and that CD sales are declining anyway who really is pressing for this stuff.

Applying DRM to CD's would kill the CD stone dead as currently it's the only legitimate way to obtain unrestricted uncompressed WAV music and to distribute it as well. (OK you can get some with special software from Music download stores but these usually come with all sorts of irksome restrictions on copying to other devices etc. etc.)

Here you do have a good point. CD's have to meet the Red Book standard if they want to be called Audio CD's. Otherwise they have to meet the Yellow Book which describes everything for data CD's. Please take a glance at those DRM'd CD's: do they read Audio CD or CD-ROM? If it reads Audio CD it means it has to meet the Red Book and expected to be readable in ANY device. If it doesn't: return to your dealer, you'll get your money back. If you buy an CD which reads CD-ROM (or even no logo at all!) you can be sure you can get trouble when reading it in whatever device.

I'm totally against Piracy but any technology that stops you listening to Music you've PAID FOR or COMPOSED / CREATED YOURSELF on whatever device you please should be outlawed.

Don't worry: giant labels like Sony and EMI have tried this using several ways of copy protection. Sony got involved in course, and has paid a lot. I'm sure Sony won't try his second time.

This is going to be a dead end street even before it has been laid down, and both EU and US know that. I tend to see this more like bad dog behaviour: growling badly but when it comes into account: running away with the tail between the legs.

[Syrius]

There's no mention of DRM on the quoted article. Relax, guys. Remember the days of the Prohibition, and the chaos that ensued. I don't think the EU is planning on watermarking every single CD in the market, and risk dooming the format forever. Though I think the EU is the antichrist all right.

[MikeyV80]

There's no mention of DRM on the quoted article. Relax, guys. Remember the days of the Prohibition, and the chaos that ensued. I don't think the EU is planning on watermarking every single CD in the market, and risk dooming the format forever.

I think your damn right, Sirius. But I think governments are willing to do strange things when money comes in account and that's why EU got the tremendous idea to do something which looks like enforcing DRM. With every CD sold, there will be an amount for vat, importtaxes and more.

It even can get worse: in The Netherlands when I buy an empty CD-Writable for instance, I have to pay € 0,12 for copyright infringement, no matter the use of that CD Writable; audio or just data. The same goes for almost every medium which might be able to carry data or audio: DVD-writables, minidiscs, audio cassette tapes. But when you think every penny goes to artists, uh-uh. I'm a singer/songwriter but never saw a penny from sales of media. Never proven it happens anyhow. Where does all that money go? Nobody knows. Is it traceable? No way, because the organisation who handles all this is a private institute working for the Dutch government, instead of a governmental unit. Does the EU take care of this? No, it doesn't.

Though I think the EU is the antichrist all right.

To me: yes. Cashflow within the EU is something normal civilians do not understand and there is a lack of information AND control of the EU. Dutch government sometimes is as harsh as the EU; should take care of protection of the Dutch but doesn't either...