BIGHMW Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Check out this B.S. I found out about our beloved ATRAC on the ALC:http://www.atraclife.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4128This, I am sure, pisses off everybody on this board, and I am one of them, and I don't blame any of you.Now more than ever, ahould I keep and support all of my current MD and Hi-MD units and get more on eBay instead of selling them.This is the 11th hour for our beloved formats, and time to stock up on blanks, because as soon as the units become history, soon the blanks and all the accessories for MiniDisc and Hi-MD units (remotes, short SL and SP series headphones, cases, etc.) will be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) Not really all that much BS , Sony as we all know is leaving the ATRAC format behind . It is firmly associated with MD it is MD's propietary format , and MD represents a failed history in Sony's eyes .......So Out goes MD , and out goes Atrac . It might be throwing the Baby out with the Bathwater , but Sony doesnt really have a choice . The technologie was there to record in an open format from the beginning . Sony could have Made the MD from its inception a Wav , recorder , could have based it in FAT , and we would have devices that were the BANE of all recording industries at our fingertips . But , the idea of Control crept in a Looooooong time ago . So we are stuck with that . Edited September 10, 2007 by Guitarfxr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGHMW Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) But, as with its predecessors, Guitarfxr, it will always have its full share of loyal followers, just like cassette and 8-track tape before it. But along with DAT and DCC, MiniDisc (and Hi-MD) will always be respected by many enthusiasts such as you and me as the ultimate recordable media format, as CD-R is one-time use only, and Zip disc is too large and too cumbersome and DCC and DAT are exactly that.....tape, that is uneditable and not as versatile as MD/Hi-MD. Try re-arranging, erasing or editing tracks on a tape format like you can on MD or Hi-MD.I believe that MiniDisc and Hi-MD will resurface (not under Sony) to have a cult following that wll be beyond legendary, much like many of those sci-fi shows from the 60s and 70s (i.e.: The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, UFO, Space: 1999, etc.) that originally failed in their network slots, only to (in rerun form) gain millions more loyal viewers and form into cult following status that prompts an eventual return or remake of that show (or format). That is what I believe will happen to MiniDisc and Hi-MD, and whether Sony likes it or not, the (MiniDisc and Hi-MD) format will never die or just simply go away as long as folks like you and me continue to both use and support it. Edited September 11, 2007 by BIGHMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I believe that MiniDisc and Hi-MD will resurface (not under Sony) to have a cult following that wll be beyond legendary, much like many of those sci-fi shows from the 60s and 70s (i.e.: The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, UFO, Space: 1999, etc.) that originally failed in their network slots, only to (in rerun form) gain millions more loyal viewers and form into cult following status that prompts an eventual return or remake of that show (or format). That is what I believe will happen to MiniDisc and Hi-MD, and whether Sony likes it or not, the (MiniDisc and Hi-MD) format will never die or just simply go away as long as folks like you and me continue to both use and support it.You forgot Science Theater 3000 , and No Mention of Star Wars, Star Trek , Dr Who , ??? Shame on you ,..... I am disappointed , ( hmmmm I am tring to remember if I had ever been Appointed , ....... so how could I be Dis Appointed if I hadnt been Appointed , Gotta think about that one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGHMW Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 You forgot Science Theater 3000 , and No Mention of Star Wars, Star Trek , Dr Who , ??? Shame on you ,..... I am disappointed , ( hmmmm I am tring to remember if I had ever been Appointed , ....... so how could I be Dis Appointed if I hadnt been Appointed , Gotta think about that one)Hey, I almost forgot about Star Trek and Dr. Who, (Star Wars was a film so I didn't mention that, as I was thinking TV series only) thanks for bringing those classics up, I bet you didn't know about UFO, that Gerry Anderson-produced series was on British TV for one season (1970-71) and then gained a huge cult following worldwide. it is now on DVD.Check out its official website at http://www.ufoseries.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishiyoshi Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Please check out the latest ATRACLife blog entry I have up a few moments ago. ATRAC for the moment is still alive in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superboy Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Again, I don't see why Sony has to acknowledge failure with its MD/ATRAC efforts. They should take the successes they had with it, filter out the failures, and come up with a new device that is even better. We all know what made the MD fail. Sony tried to market it as a CD replacement, but that never took off. What made it a success was its abilities as a great recorder as well as great playback. Now, for strictly playback, there are loads of mp3 players that are better (ipods and such). So it would be foolish for SOny to try to overtake that market. FOr recording alone, the market is much smaller, but there are things out there that might be preferable to the minidisc (Zoom H2, Edirol recorders). But minidisc is still one of the best recorders, so that is something to build on. What really sets minidisc apart is that it is a great recorder AND player. Nothing else out there has that combination with the same quality as the HiMD units out right now like the RH1. So...SOny should build on that!I repeat, make a new recorder/player with the same electronics (same preamp, same recording quality) as the RH1, but just change the media. Offer flash-based recorder/players, hard-drive based recorder/players, or both even. This is Sony's recipe for success. Why is this not obvious to them?! This opportunity is just sitting there for Sony, they just have to act on it. I think this is so freakin obvious, it should have been done years ago.But Sony will probably keep trying to keep competing with the ipod with it's various walkman units. They will admit failure with the MD, retire the format and equipment line, and move on to other things. Sony is one of these frustrating companies that fails to see the obvious implementations of their genius inventions. I mean, they come up with the coolest gadgets, but they find a way to screw it up somehow in its implementation. Why did we have to go through 3 generations of HiMD before manual recording levels can be saved? It's just silly. WHy won't they just make lives easier on themselves and allow firmware upgrades on their minidisc units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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