A Moment with the Tascam DR-1

[hewhorocks]

hewhorocks,

Thanks for posting up the recording. Great performance by the band. I also received a reply from a Canadian rep. for Tascam in regards to the availability of the Lithium battery for the DR-1. It's CAD$27+ for a replacement battery, but currently they don't have any in stock and don't have a dateline on when it'll be available.

Hopefully Tascam will release a better firmware upgrade to the version 1.10 soon.

Well I have the 1st update, but I haven't installed it. I think perhaps I should wait.

[Strungup]

only do 1.02 , leave 1.10 alone for awhile until the next update , I am Talking with Tascam about the issues , and as I have said I want everone to post the issues here so I can show them , I will be meeting in PERSON with Tascam next week sometime ...... and they will take a look at my machine and this webpage , so ,

Be Courteous , Concise , Clear , and EACH person , posting the SAME issues ,...... Makes it CLEAR the need for correction , if you dont post the issues , they wont get fixed .

If you have noise , state settings on the Machine , Type of noise etc , .....If it is a Function issue , ......................you get the point .

[bassclarinet69]

Hello everybody,

Since last week I'm, also a DR-1 owner, and having had some issues, I found this forum...

only do 1.02 , leave 1.10 alone for awhile until the next update , I am Talking with Tascam about the issues , and as I have said I want everone to post the issues here so I can show them , I will be meeting in PERSON with Tascam next week sometime ...... and they will take a look at my machine and this webpage , so ,

Be Courteous , Concise , Clear , and EACH person , posting the SAME issues ,...... Makes it CLEAR the need for correction , if you dont post the issues , they wont get fixed .

If you have noise , state settings on the Machine , Type of noise etc , .....If it is a Function issue , ......................you get the point .

First of all: Guitarfxr, thank you for your efforts in contacting Tascam!

Here is another issue with the unit, using firmware versions 1.02 or 1.10 (yes, I upgraded as well). As we all know, clipping is a bad thing in digital systems. But if the clipping is only very short, i.e. an impulsive sound gets one peak slightly shaved off, that's not a problem at all - it's inaudible unless the recording was made with the DR-1 in 16 bit or any MP3 mode. In that case, once the +MAX sample value of +32767 is exceeded, instead of holding it there for the duration of the overdrive, it rolls over to -MIN (-32768). So instead of a perfectly inaudible mild clipping, you get a harsh full scale impulse which is a very loud and unpleasant click or knock.

Even worse, if the overdrive gets more important, e.g. due to low frequency wind noise that is added to the desired signal, the waveform jumps from +MAX to -MIN and then ramps up again. In the sound editor, for a sine wave, that looks like the missing part on the positive half wave is 'moved' down to -MIN, i.e. as if 65536 was substracted from the original signal.

This behaviour can be seen at least in the following configurations: 16/44.1, any MP3/44.1, ALC or LIMITER off, LOW/MED or HI Gain, MIC1 used. I did not test the line input for its overdrive behaviour... yet.

In 24 bit mode, the clipping behaves as expected, that is, the sample value holds at either min or max value, which lets me believe that the AD converter is clean and that this digital distorsion issue is due to some post-processing in the DR-1 firmware.

Needless to say that this weird overdrive makes the 16 bit or MP3 modes nearly unusable unless you intend to a) leave a lot of headroom and b ) use the limiter and c) be prepared for some manual editing sessions.

But I am confident that this description is helpful for the Tascam people to hunt down and fix that bug in a matter of no time.

As for the noise, I couldn't really compare before/after behaviour since I did upgrade relatively soon. Regarding the bass issue, I did notice that recordings with 1.10 do have less energy in the DC to 25 Hz part of the spectrum, and that the sound is really somewhat midrangy. However, it is quite easy to correct with a parametric EQ, so I can live with that.

brgds

Edited April 16, 2008 by Bass Clarinet

[ozpeter]

Heh, that sounds exactly like a bug that Premiere Pro video editing software had at one point. Very nasty indeed!!

[hewhorocks]

Had a chance to record some in the studio last night. Excellent results at the 24 bit 48 setting. Voice and acoustic guitar. This device is awesome bang for the buck. I never did upgrade from the original 1.01. I think I'll wait to see what you get out of Tascam at your meeting.

I would suggest they come out with a mounting clip, add on. So the DR-1 could be easily mounted to a tripod or a better yet a universal mic stand.

[ughhhh]

I just got a DR1 and ran some tests. I played sine waves into the Mic1 input and recorded the results.

The settings were:

System 1.02

16bit 44.1kHz WAV

Mic1 input

Gain: Low

Lowcut: off

(plugin) power: off

no limiter or AGC

Input knob on side set to about 4

I set it up so that the sine wave would fade in from 0 to 1 over 10 seconds. There was a stereo miniplug to stereo miniplug cable running from my computer's output to the Mic1 input. On the Tascam the meters were set so that the full volume signal put the meters at about the middle, as I didn't want to get anywhere near clipping.

There is obvious clipping, or something weird is happening to the waveforms if you zoom in on them. Also, once it gets to full volume, you can see the amplitude fluctuate.

DR000011.wav is a 40Hz signal

DR000012.wav is a 400Hz signal

I usually record using some cheapo omni mics, I was noticing a lot of weird artifacts, which I thought had to do with having the Gain control set to High, but this test proves otherwise. Not very good, I'm disappointed that I bought this thing right now.

I might try to upgrade to system 1.10, although I've heard bad things about it on here.

Btw, this is my first post here, I've attached the two sound files, I hope they upload!

DR000011.wav

DR000012.wav

[Strungup]

#1 you should have run the cable to the LINE input , and set the settings for Line , coming out of the PC ,

Mic 1 Input is somewhere around 40 db below line level , and is a totally different impedance , by running Line Level into the Mic 1 input you were overloading the Mic pre's on the Tascam .

Try the same test again , but Go into the LINE input and use the volume of the PC to control the input level , while watching the meters on the DR1

Each of the Inputs on the DR1 is a Different Impedance , Mic 2 doesnt NOT run thru the Preamp the Mic 1 input does , but does go thru a Level control ,

Line input in Direct to the A/D converter , so No Limiting , and No Level controls , but Very clean input .

Both Mic 1 and Mic 2 , have preamps , each one is seperate from each other though one being a straight Monoblock , the other being a Stereo proccessor

Only use Mic level impedances on Mic inputs .

Also at High Gain , with Mics , .........Yes there are some serious Artifacts , THAT is the Sound sample I want posted so as to SHow Tascam .

A rep will be at my Home on the 22 next week , so Get the Posts , straight , and ready , I will bring him to this thread , and download the samples to a CD for him .

There is a Basic principle to follow here , " From the Mouth of two or three ,..... a Thing is established " so , the Same issues , by different people clearly stated

Then things get fixed .

Thx

[sdarsee]

Guitarfxr,

Thank you so much for this excellent review and detailed insights!

VERY HIGHLY APPRECIATED!!!

So much so that this is the first blog I've responded to, although I've reseached many.

I was considering the DR-1 due to the warm , non-strident or digital sounding samples I'd heard, but that was before the 1.10 upgrade!

You can pass that on to the TASCAM rep!

I am a writer/musician who needs to record live performance and home ideas as well as demos on a pro quality computer friendly format. Looks like I may have to wait...

Thanks again for such great writings!

[Strungup]

Guitarfxr,

Thank you so much for this excellent review and detailed insights!

VERY HIGHLY APPRECIATED!!!

So much so that this is the first blog I've responded to, although I've reseached many.

I was considering the DR-1 due to the warm , non-strident or digital sounding samples I'd heard, but that was before the 1.10 upgrade!

You can pass that on to the TASCAM rep!

I am a writer/musician who needs to record live performance and home ideas as well as demos on a pro quality computer friendly format. Looks like I may have to wait...

Thanks again for such great writings!

The RH1 , is a Minidisc , And will interface with your PC/Mac , the only thing missig is a Limiter for overload protection , The recording Quality is Pristine

The reason for the DR1 are the functions , Overdubbing and limiter , w/effects , You dont need to hold up on the DR1 , just stay away from 1.10 check the firmware while your at the store .

The Next update will very likely have implementation , of my suggestions to the rep . I will put everything in a Text file , as well as audio samples .

It will be properly represented .

[Ghost64]

Hi !

Thanks very much for your tests and mp3 clips.

I search a recorder for violin music and sometimes orchester, I though about zoom h2, or tascam since I read your test.

Wich one do you think is better for this, the dr-1 even with 1.10 update, or the h2 (or maybe another one like the boss record br). I can't spend money enougth for the sony.

Thanks !

[Strungup]

DR1 with 1.02 will suit you well

The H2 loses all the High frequencies ,

[Ghost64]

sure high frequencies are needed for violin..

I hope that if I buy a dr-1 now It won't be the 1.10 update on

thx for your advice !

[Strungup]

sure high frequencies are needed for violin..

I hope that if I buy a dr-1 now It won't be the 1.10 update on

thx for your advice !

If they will let you turn it on in the store , After powering on , push the Menu button , rotate the wheel that surrounds the Play button , until "Information" highlighted , then push Play , after that rotate the wheel to the System3/3 window and look at the bottom , you will see the System information

[Ghost64]

in store it cost twice the online price :s

Do you think the tascam with 1.10 firmware is anyway better than zoom ?

[Strungup]

you can ask them online to make sure what version the software is specify 1.02 , state the 1.10 is still a work in progress

[DrGonzo]

Hi. sorry for my english.

I succesfully downgraded my firmware from 1.10 to 1.02.

You have to open the firmware file (1.02) with a Hexadecimal editor then edit the 10th byte (9h; 9; C0): change the value from 66 to 6E.

Follow the instruction to upgrade the Dr-1. The recorder will see this new (but old) file as 1.10 and will let you downgrade your unity.

Try it at your own risk

This my two cents.

(this is the best review about the dr-1 that i've ever read. Thanks Guitarfxr!)

DrGonzo

Edited April 19, 2008 by DrGonzo

[songliftingwave]

Hi everyone ,thanks for the great info on the DR-1. I just bought one and it defaults or something like it when I'm in Mic 2 mode and try to add the effect(rev).I lose all input. Anyone else have this kind of issue?

[Strungup]

Hi everyone ,thanks for the great info on the DR-1. I just bought one and it defaults or something like it when I'm in Mic 2 mode and try to add the effect(rev).I lose all input. Anyone else have this kind of issue?

The "Settings" button on the right side , klik it , then rotate the Data wheel to select input (Mic1, Mic2, Line ) you have to selct the input from the menu

[bassclarinet69]

Hello,

I'm currently mastering the first live recordings done with the DR-1. Here's my findings and hints:

- when recording, don't aim for the highest possible recording level. The DR-1's mic preamp noise is in any case larger than the one of the AD converter, so you're not giving up anything when choosing a lower gain. For me, setting the mic gain to LOW and the thumbwheel to 10 (max) gave best results. Pulling the gain up during the mastering was better for the overall noise figure than to put the mic preamp gain to MEDium and then reduce it with the potentiometer...

- The midrangyness of the mics can be reduced substantially using a parametric eq: cf 4500 Hz, gain -2dB, bw 4octaves. Plus, to compensate for lack of bass, apply a low shelf at 120 Hz, steepness 6db/oct, gain between 3 and 6 dB depending on your preferences.

Using these tricks, plus a nice convolution reverb, I did some really nice-sounding stuff. The noise floor (mics, room A/C and audience) sometimes reaching as low as -65 dB RMS in the final mix. Not too bad, considering the my old setup using Sennheiser mics, self-designed preamps, and a DA-40 gives around 75 dB in a comparable situation :-)

So, on my wishlist for a DR-1 MkII would be improved mics and mic preamps. For the nearer future, I'm looking forward to an improved firmware which fixes the digital distorsion 'bug' and which brings a calibrated level meter - if I'm allowed to dream, a true RMS + peak level meter according to the K-14 or K-20 standard would be way cool (have a look at the DigiCheck software by RME Audio)

best regards

[songliftingwave]

The "Settings" button on the right side , klik it , then rotate the Data wheel to select input (Mic1, Mic2, Line ) you have to selct the input from the menu

I've already done this. Afterwards i select effects and lose all input (no level,volume whatever)Also in Mic 1 mode with the effects on, the gain is much less and with less noise than with no effects selected. Am i making sense?

Edited April 20, 2008 by songliftingwave

[azdc]

A Big Thank You to guitarfxr and to all those who have given info to this thread. The postings here were very helpful.

After some reviewing and going back and forth and what unit to buy I settled on the Sony pcm-D50. I will be using it to tape my violin lessons and myself playing as I learn. I am a newbie with the violin and thought it would help to have quality sound recordings to assist me in getting the right tone, rhythm etc... This is also my first posting to a forum. I'll keep watching the thread to see what the outcomes are with the tascam dr1 for my violin instructor. Thank you again.

If anyone has info or tips for the Sony pcm-d50 to get the best quality playback you can e-mail me at azarem@comcast.net

[gicos]

I am on the fence about whether to wait for the DR2 or not. A few answers to questions will help me make up my mind. I have been watching this thread closely and what a great thing it has been. If only we could get this kind of detailed information on everything we buy!

I am a professional trumpeter, so portability is paramount. I don't care for/can't usually carry around a huge bag of goodies.

1. Does the metronome have a small speaker, or does it have to be piped through phones? I need nothing from a metronome except to be able to drop it on the stand and get a straight click.

2. Does the tuner accept input from built in mic, or does one have to be plugged in? (1 and 2 caused me to shy away from a Yamaha Silent Brass effects box.)

3. How is the headphone amp. I know this is geared as a a recorder, but would an audiophile need an external DAC/headphone amp to get high quality playback? I'm just goofy enough to carry it around as an Ipod, too

4. I've deduced from reading this thread several times that a 26dB preamp and reduced noise floor would be hardware improvements hoped for the next model. Any other recommendations on the hardware side? It's not beyond me to hire an electrical engineer to do a little tweaking before I put the unit to use.

Thanks much for any input. Obviously, this recorder is a big deal to musicians and I am so thankful that Tascam decided to target our crowd.

[Strungup]

I am a professional trumpeter, so portability is paramount. I don't care for/can't usually carry around a huge bag of goodies.

1. Does the metronome have a small speaker, or does it have to be piped through phones? I need nothing from a metronome except to be able to drop it on the stand and get a straight click.

2. Does the tuner accept input from built in mic, or does one have to be plugged in? (1 and 2 caused me to shy away from a Yamaha Silent Brass effects box.)

3. How is the headphone amp. I know this is geared as a a recorder, but would an audiophile need an external DAC/headphone amp to get high quality playback? I'm just goofy enough to carry it around as an Ipod, too

4. I've deduced from reading this thread several times that a 26dB preamp and reduced noise floor would be hardware improvements hoped for the next model. Any other recommendations on the hardware side? It's not beyond me to hire an electrical engineer to do a little tweaking before I put the unit to use.

#1 There is no Speaker on the DR1 , you need to use Phones

#2 Tuner works from the Mics , or any input , is Chromatic , and accurate

#3 Headphone amp is not audiophile quality , actually somewhat noisy , the recorded files sound better once on the computer ( one of my beefs which will be dealt with)

#4 the 26 db preamp , is My own addition , I built it, it is a separate piece and does not belong to Tascam ( nor will it )

Next version of software I am asking for full screen db accurate VU meters, numbered, and measured . Better S/N at the HP out , and gain restructured at the MIC1 input

MIC2 is fine , Line is perfect no improvements needed .

[manoog]

Thankyou for your great review, I can tell it was time consuming. I just received my DR1 and wanted to ask you in regards to recording in the mic 2 input, which you prefer, if you use a stereo mic will it record in stereo or is it a mono mic input. If mic 2 is mono, is there a workaround which will enable me to get stereo without using #1 ?

P.S. Recorded my band today at a gig and did a good job except the vocals were a little too hot. I had the gain set at med, and the limiter off. Do you think low gain with the limiter on would be better?

Edited April 21, 2008 by Paul22

[randygo]

Hello all,

I just got myself one of these units on Friday. I was hoping I could use its overdub function to

create parts for my multitrack projects, i.e., monitor a track on the DR-1 and record a new

isolated part in sync. However, the monitored track is always mixed in to the overdubbed track.

No worries though, as I have created a Windows command-line program that will "unmix" the

originally monitored track out of the overdubbed track.

Tascam lets you create A and A+B. My program will give you B.

Hopefully Tascam will provide a record mode in a future firmware update that does what I describe.

Here is where you can download my program:

http://www.integrand.com/dr1/undub.exe

Here is the help text when you run the program without arguments:

*************************************************************
*                                                           *
*    Undub (Version 1.00)                                   *
*                                                           *
*        Copyright Randy Gordon (randy@integrand.com)       *
*                                                           *
*                                                           *
*    Description:                                           *
*                                                           *
*    This program works with Tascam DR-1 files that are     *
*    created using the DR-1's 'Overdub' mode. It will       *
*    extract an overdubbed signal in isolation by removing  *
*    the monitored signal from it. When creating the        *
*    overdub, ensure that the monitored track is started    *
*    at the beginning and the mix balance is set to         *
*    the maximum.                                           *
*                                                           *
*    With the Tascam DR-1 you perform the following:        *
*                                                           *
*       1) Create a track to monitor (Signal A)             *
*       2) Create an overdub track   (Signal A+           *
*                                                           *
*    This program allows you to recover Signal B alone.     *
*                                                           *
*************************************************************

Usage: undub [options] 


where options include:

    -o   : override default out file name
    -s        : override automatic offset detection

eg.:     undub DR000018.wav DR000023.wav

[/code]

Cheers,

Randy

[Strungup]

Wow ok your a Coder , cool

Pm me tonight , The Tascam Rep will be here at My place Tues ( tomorrow ) I will give you My Skype Id , add me , and we can Have a discussion directly with the Tascam Rep .

2 pm Japan time . so whatever time that is for you .

[nyco]

Fisrt, thanks to all for your contribution on this forum.

Tascam lets you create A and A+B. My program will give you B.

Randygo, would you mind publish the undub's source ?

Maybe we could do something for anyone who doesn't use Windows.

[randygo]

Randygo, would you mind publish the undub's source ?

Maybe we could do something for anyone who doesn't use Windows.

I need to clean the source up a bit, its not quite ready for other eyes at the moment.

The basic principle of operation is very simple. The program phase-inverts the A track and

adds it to the A+B track. If the mix balance was set to maximum at the time of the overdub,

then the A track was recorded at unity gain in the A + B track so it cancels out completely,

producing a pristine B track.

There is a complication through. I don't know if its a bug, a feature, or an intentional trick on

Tascam's part, but the overdubbed track ( A + B ) is not perfectly in sync with the A

track. It starts recording earlier by about 25 or 26 samples (random!) on my unit.

So my program needs to determine what this offset is and account for it before calculating

the difference of the two WAV files. I currently do a simple analysis of the first two seconds

of the candidate output files at different offset values between 0 and 100. Whichever

candidate is "quietest" is deduced to be the correct offset value to recover the B track.

If Tascam can fix this random offset problem the program would be trivial.

Cheers,

Randy

Pm me tonight , The Tascam Rep will be here at My place Tues ( tomorrow ) I will give you My Skype Id , add me , and we can Have a discussion directly with the Tascam Rep .

Guitarfxr,

I don't have much to say to the Tascam rep, but you might want to relay the following concerns:

1) Why are overdubbed tracks 25-26 samples out-of-sync with the original monitored track?

2) Can Tascam implement a new overdub mode that lets you monitor track A and record track B

without also mixing in track A ? Maybe show options like "OFF", "ON", "NOMIX" or something

like that when the overdub choice list comes up upon hitting record. That would completely

eliminate the need for my program.

Thanks,

Randy

[Strungup]

well , hmm those arent really the issues that effect this unit , and they arent in the design specifications for the unit . First off the intended use and design must be understood.

Getting the unit to something they had not intended , is an outside Option , and is not part of a feature set for the General populace , that is something a true Multitrack unit is made for , and they exist in abundance . Portable 4 trackers , are available in any flavor now , so that is not in the interest of this piece .

The Main tout is the Stereo Recording capability , which is where the issue lies , and where the problem exists , All of the Sub features , are in fact quite nice and completely acceptable , Just the fact that you CAN overdub allow for catching a more complete idea ( and Idea catcher not a Production Machine)

The Fact that it has Effects on it (Reverbs which take and especially large amount of processing power to be even HAlfway decent . )

and Overdubbing , several ins and outs etc , they put as much as they could into it , Maybe TOO much ,........ and therefore weakened one or two of a set of features , instead of strengthening them .

[randygo]

Getting the unit to something they had not intended , is an outside Option , and is not part of a feature set for the General populace , that is something a true Multitrack unit is made for , and they exist in abundance . Portable 4 trackers , are available in any flavor now , so that is not in the interest of this piece .

Right, I understand that. I have plenty of multitracks and I don't expect the DR-1 to be one.

However, the overdub feature would be infinitely more useful if it allowed a "no mix" option.

It would only require a few lines of code in the firmware to implement. It would expand the

appeal of the device to a larger set of consumers and Tascam could sell far more units.

The first thing I though of when I heard this device had an "overdub" feature was whether I could

create a scratch track and then monitor it and capture multitrack ideas as separate takes.

If I can monitor one track while recording another, why should I be confined to mixing in the monitored

track?

I can carry this thing in my pocket everywhere I go. If I'm at a friend's place who happens to be a great

guitarist, why not let him play a solo or two against my song when inspiration strikes? Captured at 24bit,

using only this one tiny device. Then I can later pull it into my DAW for sequencing, editing, etc.

My program allows me to do that. The DR-1 is 99% of the device I've been dreaming of. It would be nice if it

was 100%.

Cheers,

Randy

Edited April 21, 2008 by randygo

[Strungup]

I can accept that point , as a moderately great guitarist myself ( lying thru my teeth ) .....but that would be a nice idea.

[bennyp]

I had a chance to try a few different things out with my Tascam.

Last week my good friend Ari and his brother Zac were busking in the main square of the Jewish Quarter. I grabbed my TASCAM and my AKG C1000S condenser mic and carried it out to 'the Rova' along with the attendant mic stand and cables. For some reason, I get a real kick out of walking around with huge headphones on and tonnes of odd cables hanging out of every pocket.

I've attached the recording I made by plugging the AKG into the mic2 port and recording at mid gain around level 9. This sample was only very lightly treated. All I did was load it into Audacity, crop out a nice chunk, fade it in and out and normalize it. Other than that, it's unfiltered and unequalized.

Note the way I strapped the TASCAM to the stand. Have you all noticed the little notches on the back of the TASCAM at the top edge? Do you think these might be grommets for a tripod adaptor or something? That would be great, but even better would be a leather or hard case that gives access to the buttons and controls. But for those like me (ie, the budgetarily challenged), rest assured that you can have success by following this simple maxim: "'Strap 'er to the stand with a big ole' rubber band!"

Passover is in full swing here in the Jewish quarter. Earlier tonight, a band of Breslover Chossidim came with their gear and bopped around to their famous brand of Jewish Rock/Klezmer. Not wanting to pass up the opportunity, I grabbed my TASCAM in great haste (before it even had time to bake!) and ran out to the square to grab a few clips. My second attachment is a sample that I took using the built in mics at low gain at 10.

The TASCAM was placed on a table of books that the chassidim were giving away for a donation to charity, about 5-10 meters back from the PA. Back in the lab, I loaded the file into Audacity. From there I tried to treat her in the manner that Bass Clarinet suggested. I used Audacity's built in EQ to lower the gain at 4500Hz, I also ran Paul Nasca's Bass boost plugin at 120Hz to a gain of 4dB, and then I applied the LADSPA convolution reverb (stereo) plugin using it's default values. The end result came out sounding pretty good, for what it was, but I'll let you all be the judge of that.

As far as feature requests, I'd love to see the following:

• The Ability to record clean, and playback with effects. The Edirol R-09 does this, I believe.
• It would also be great to be able to access the menus while plugged into USB (non-trivial?)
• I also would love to have the suggested NOMIX option, which would turn my DR-1 into a real powderkeg of creative potential

With all those, and especially the last suggestion (NOMIX), I would recommend the DR-1 to anyone - hobbyist, student, or professional.

RecordingtheRova.mp3

Rocking_the_Rova.mp3

Edited April 21, 2008 by bennyp

[bobt]

bennyp, good sounding music, sounds like you were having fun,

Bob

[Strungup]

Hey Benny you can record clean , Just turn the effects off with the FX button , and in the Menu's you can select the effect routing from Source / Input .

Those features are already in the unit with Update 1.10 , but 1.10 is what introduced Artifacts and problems with Noise and distortion , that is what I am dealing with Tascam about .

Push and HOLD the FX button and the FX menu will come up , and you will have choices of several effects , and various settings for those effects

A short push turns them on or off.

[bennyp]

Hey Benny you can record clean , Just turn the effects off with the FX button , and in the Menu's you can select the effect routing from Source / Input .

Those features are already in the unit with Update 1.10 , but 1.10 is what introduced Artifacts and problems with Noise and distortion , that is what I am dealing with Tascam about .

Push and HOLD the FX button and the FX menu will come up , and you will have choices of several effects , and various settings for those effects

A short push turns them on or off.

Guitarfxr, sorry for not being clear, I knew I can record clean, what I want is to be able to playback with effects. I looked in the menus but didn't find the features you mentioned. Are they not present in 1.02?

bennyp, good sounding music, sounds like you were having fun,

Bob

Yeah, thanks! tonne of fun! Ari is an amazingly talented clarinetist. Often I busk with him in the square, and we can make a good pocket full some times

[Strungup]

no they added it in 1.10 , but wait before updating , that is the update we are having issues with , some things were gained at the expense of more important stuff.

the loss of sound quality is substantial . so wait a little while and you will get your wish , those features will be there .

[gyapp]

Anyone know the difference between a full format versus a quick format of the SD card in the DR-1?

[Strungup]

Anyone know the difference between a full format versus a quick format of the SD card in the DR-1?

Quickie , just erases the headers files , so that you can record over the files that are still there but no longer recognizes , Full Format erases it all so that there is nothing left .

Update:

Spent the afternoon dealing with Tascam , the result was that I had a Faulty unit, and it has been replaced , And there will be new updates in a few months with possible Numerical partitions ( Maybe ,No guarantee) so I had a bad box .

I have a new one with 1.10 on it and it sounds fine , ............ Back in business , now I can get to work on my Ideas , ( By the way , He REALLY liked my 26db preamps )

The feature set that has been asked for just isnt possible with the design as is , It was a Detailed discussion , and Some ideas are workable and make sense , others do not .

Overdubbing , is just an addition to the Stereo Recording . which is its Main function , so don't expect more than it is It isn't doable processor wise , that is what a Multitrack is for , and does it well .

Limiting will get moderate improves over time . it is a software issue , and at the price level of this machine , they did as much as was able to be done , .... Consideration , the PCM-D50 Sony is almost Twice the price ......... What functions does it have ?...... One ,........... it records in Stereo.

The Dr1 at this price range is the best unit to get better , it will take Time and Money .

My New Dr1 , sounds good , and I was helped to understand the gain architecture a lot better , The Rep was very helpful .

So Tascam Came thru . Chivalry is NOT dead !!

Edited April 22, 2008 by Guitarfxr

[Strungup]

Oh By the way , just an additional thought .

The Serial number first three digits indicate production run , My new one is 003 so if that helps anyone , there it is .

I am basically done with this thread , I have got to get to work , Mics to fix , House to fix , Recording to do , Brain to find ,.... oh scratch that , it's in the sock drawer .

[hewhorocks]

Thanks for all the great efforts...

So you think the 1.10 update is good to go? Should we go ahead?

I'm getting awesome results from the original version, just want to be sure.

Edited April 22, 2008 by hewhorocks