tronato Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hello!First Post!Let's say you rip a CD like Pink Floyd's "The Dark Side Of The Moon" (or any "Live" CD for that matter) in MP3 Format. Is there a way to eliminate those momentary "Gaps" (blanks) between songs so the recording sounds like it is meant to be, that is, like if it were one continuous track?This has bothered me ever since I began recording MP3s to minidisc or memory sticks.Thanks for your help!TRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kino170878 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) MP3 cannot handle gapless tracks natively. The Atrac format supports native gapless playback. Sony (the creators of Atrac) never liked MP3 (and even tried to cripple it) so I am quite sure they will never implement gapless playback with MP3 on their players. Sony do however allow gapless with WAV. If you want gapless tracks at MP3, well good luck mate but aside from the iPod I can't see it possible or the solution being elegant. Edited May 31, 2008 by kino170878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hello!First Post!Let's say you rip a CD like Pink Floyd's "The Dark Side Of The Moon" (or any "Live" CD for that matter) in MP3 Format. Is there a way to eliminate those momentary "Gaps" (blanks) between songs so the recording sounds like it is meant to be, that is, like if it were one continuous track?This has bothered me ever since I began recording MP3s to minidisc or memory sticks.Thanks for your help!TRONI've heard you can edit them out with audacity or a similar program. If you have the CD, why not just put it directly on MD?Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronato Posted May 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I've heard you can edit them out with audacity or a similar program. If you have the CD, why not just put it directly on MD?BobHello!Thanks for your answers! You are very kind!The thing really is that apart from owning a few Minidisc recorders (even in my car!) I bought a 2GB Panasonic MP3 Player (SV-MP020) and that is when I started dealing with MP3. Needless to say it does not handle ATRAC but it does handle WAV. It's great as a data storing device also and the battery lasts up to 70 - 80 hours.I was just wondering about those gaps... I've come to the conclusion that it's an MP3 issue, not a Sony issue. Somebody suggested to try the iTunes software to eliminate the gaps... has anybody tried it?Thanks again!TRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronato Posted May 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hello!Thanks for your answers! You are very kind!The thing really is that apart from owning a few Minidisc recorders (even in my car!) I bought a 2GB Panasonic MP3 Player (SV-MP020) and that is when I started dealing with MP3. Needless to say it does not handle ATRAC but it does handle WAV. It's great as a data storing device also and the battery lasts up to 70 - 80 hours.I was just wondering about those gaps... I've come to the conclusion that it's an MP3 issue, not a Sony issue. Somebody suggested to try the iTunes software to eliminate the gaps... has anybody tried it?Thanks again!TRONHello!I wrote this to implement e-mail notification of replies...Thanks!TRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hello!Thanks for your answers! You are very kind!The thing really is that apart from owning a few Minidisc recorders (even in my car!) I bought a 2GB Panasonic MP3 Player (SV-MP020) and that is when I started dealing with MP3. Needless to say it does not handle ATRAC but it does handle WAV. It's great as a data storing device also and the battery lasts up to 70 - 80 hours.I was just wondering about those gaps... I've come to the conclusion that it's an MP3 issue, not a Sony issue. Somebody suggested to try the iTunes software to eliminate the gaps... has anybody tried it?Thanks again!TRONiTunes will work if the files are store as an album , and then in preferences " Gapless album" is checked But I dont really like iTunes CD , I use BURN for Mac , and the CD's actually sound better Yes I am on a Mac ,..............and DONT use iTunes ( except for Podcasts and radio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronato Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 iTunes will work if the files are store as an album , and then in preferences " Gapless album" is checked But I dont really like iTunes CD , I use BURN for Mac , and the CD's actually sound better Yes I am on a Mac ,..............and DONT use iTunes ( except for Podcasts and radio)Hello!I'll check Itunes out...Thanks Guitarfxr!TRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tronato Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hello again!I have checked the latest verion of iTunes (7.6.2.9) which is available at their websight right now (XP and Vista compatible) and as far as the Gapless thing it is only available when you are going to make a CD copy of MP3 files.It does not mention the possibility of using any other device...This doesn't seem to help much...Any clue?Thanks!TRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 again, you may have to use an audio editor program to delete the gap,Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZosoIV Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Gapless playback has nothing to do with there being "gaps" of silence in the file itself; rather, it's a problem on the hardware side. The hardware (or software) player must "know" that the end of the file has a 576 sample delay and begin to cache the next file, otherwise, a gap will sound between them. ATRAC is no more inherently gapless than MP3 or any other format, it's just that Sony had the good sense to implement gapless playback in their hardware decoders long before people had high-quality MP3 encoders like LAME to encode albums like DSOTM with. As most people nowadays listen to crap music and not "concept albums" such as those by Pink Floyd or the Who, gapless playback apparently wasn't big enough of a problem to get "fixed" on most hardware players until about 2-3 years ago. Yet now I have a 2008-vintage Sony NW-616 flash player that can't play anything gaplessly - go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Back to the days of TAPE ,......... no gaps there , mix and fade , your own way . Analouge is a GOoD thing . Vinyl , and Tape , with the right gear , will always be inherently free of the associated problems of the digital realm . MD is the epitome of Analouge /Digital combitination Once the computer gets involved , it all goes downhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_caudy Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 This may be a longwinded process but I think that if you could rip the CD as a cue and wave file combination using EAC (Google Exact Audio Copy), the key combination [alt+F7] this would then produce a single uninterrupted wave file which you could then encode to mp3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boun01 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 This may be a longwinded process but I think that if you could rip the CD as a cue and wave file combination using EAC (Google Exact Audio Copy), the key combination [alt+F7] this would then produce a single uninterrupted wave file which you could then encode to mp3.You may also use the program CDEX to extract all the CD or a part of it in a long mp3 file. In the menu, choose Convert and go to Extract Partial CD Track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate A Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) you could also load the whole album into audacity and export as on MP3 too, right ? Edited July 8, 2008 by Nate A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 You'd have to rip and then import each track into Audacity, manually join them and then export as an mp3 (or whatever). That's what I do with classical music, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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