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NetMD files: Sony MZ-M100 > PC via USB

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heylo!

sorry if this is beating a dead horse, but i have a Sony MZ-M100 Hi-MD recorder

and i'm trying to move via USB some NetMD files that were recorded on the same recorder

a few years ago by my soundman. unfortunately, he didn't format the discs for Hi-MD at the time.

the minidiscs are in NetMD format.

using SonicStage 4.3, it will not let me transfer the NetMD files due to copyright permissions(?).

my soundman at one time may have connected the M100 to his PC.

would this have written protection code onto the minidiscs?

is there a way to change the permissions?

i'm confused on why this is an issue.

many thanx!

sirdemon

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Uploading of NetMD files was disabled by Sony (due to their own highy restrictive DRM policies) until their very last Hi-MD recorder came out, the MZ-RH1 (or M200) which allows USB uploading for mic/line (non-computer) recordings.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way of enabling NetMD uploading in older Hi-MD recorders like the M100, otherwise someone would have been sure to have found a way by now.

You're stuck with some sort of real-time transfer, or seeing if you can borrow (or even buy) an MZ-RH1/M200.

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I tried editing a NetMD file on my deck (JE640) by dividing it into 2 files and trying to upload the 2nd one on the RH1. This doesn't work. However I have a hunch that when Adrian and company are done with their Linux project, there will be a way around this. Sounds like the headers on individual files of the deck, though it could also be an encryption issue. The reason I say this (that it might just be the headers) is that I have one deck that can split a NetMD file, and one (later one, MXD-D400) that cannot. Perhaps I will find time to join that gang and do a Windows version.

As I pointed out in another post, playing back NetMD files over optical does work, provided your deck has Optical out. However because of SCMS you can't pipe this straight to an MD recorder, it will have to be recorded in the computer. The assumption here is that you have a sound card with Optical In that removes SCMS (many do).

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  • 3 weeks later...

I own an MN-Z1 which uses Net MD.

I have dozens of Mini Disc of Live Recordings made with the an external mic.

The recordings are divided into tracks which I created by pausing between recording sessions.

Is there an efficient way to transfer the live recordings onto my Computer's Hard Drive, while preserving the track divisions (ie. multiple tracks), rather than live real-time transfer which does not denote the tracks?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Please e-mail (vince99@rogers.com) your suggestions so that I don;t miss them because I'm new to this forum and I'm not sure where to look for responses to my questions.

Thanks

Vince.

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As soon as you use the word "efficient" you mean via USB and therefore the MZ-RH1 is your only choice. They are available for retail sale.

If you don't mind doing it via "aux" (analogue line connection from headphone socket) you can do this with any MD into your sound card. But now you are critically dependent on your sound card's A->D circuits and many are not that good. Line noise (hum etc) too. Better if your NetMD machine has the ability to set LINE OUT on the output jack. Most early models and the later high end models do, including the N1.

If your tracks were recorded at SP, it may be that it is worth trying to find a deck with optical out, if your computer has optical in. Alternatively there may be dongles (I don't have or need one) that play optical into USB, but not from SONY(?). No portable that is useful to you will have opti-out. If not recorded at SP (ie lower bitrate, LP2 or --gasp-- LP4) don't bother with optical. In any event, optical will be x1 playback only, no uploading over USB even if the unit (JB980, JE780) has USB connection - it's one-way and likely to stay so.

If you live in my city I might be able to help.

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  • 3 months later...

Thanks for the reply--

Do you think the New Sony's MZM200 Pro Hi-MD will read my regular MiniDisc which was live recordings (SP - Highest Quality) and be able to transfer them to the computer via USB at high speed?

I'm thinking of buying it just to try. Let me know what you think.

Vince.

Simple answer - YES!

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But don't forget that by default all SP uploads are converted to ATRAC3plus @ 256 kbit/s, which you will certainly want to avoid, if you wish to preserve full quality. You'll simply need to configure SonicStage to upload in PCM.

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