kino170878 Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 On studio equipment (including a handful of MD decks) Coaxial digital connections can carry a purer signal (less potential distortion) than the optical digital connection, even though some people claim to prefer the "cleaner" sound of optical. AES-EBU supposedly carries the best signal but that's only what I've read, I can't confirm it since I never had access to such expensive equipment. Overall I doubt you could hear it unless you had a million dollar studio/audiophile set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 ...unless you had a million dollar studio/audiophile set-up.Not to mention million dollar ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) Not to mention million dollar ears.Or a cheap sound card with an optical in, that will easily demostrate that the signal transferred from a $50 CD player is bit-identical to the signal from a $500,000 set-up. Edited July 16, 2009 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Wrong.Wrong.Wrong.Optical outputs do differ. The simplest example is the optical output of a PC. It never outputs the actual signal read from the CD. Before being output, the signal passes through various circuitry, has its level changed, and probably gets resampled a couple of times. Remember that track marks for non-stop albums are always lost when recording via optical from a PC? That's because what is output is not the original CD signal.Other devices (PS3, Xbox, etc.) may also change the signal before output. Even some CD players actually do that.In any case, the presence of track mark information in the optical signal reliably indicates that a device outputs the original signal. Luckily for us, any MD recorder can be used to check that.And CD-TEXT is just an extension of the standard. Previously unused bits are employed to transfer text information from capable devices. This does not change the audio part of the signal at all.So in short, are you saying that my old CD recorder deck is probably producing the most identical signal via optical output? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 [As a result of a highly focused beam of ignorance, narp was transmorgified into Abby Normal.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecrab Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) Didja check the date on that article, namely the month? I never noticed that! It all makes sense now, somewhat unfortunately. There have been a bunch of similar MD pranks on 4/1 through the years, though.http://www.minidisc.org/april_1_1999.htmlhttp://www.minidisc.org/pony_mp3n1_interview.htmlhttp://www.minidisc.org/mztst1.html Edited July 17, 2009 by bluecrab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 So in short, are you saying that my old CD recorder deck is probably producing the most identical signal via optical output?Most probably yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby Normal Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 http://www.minidisc.org/pony_mp3n1_interview.htmlFavorite excerpts from that one:"By the way, we call our modified firmware version of Sony MZ-N1 the "Pony MP3-N1""Losing compatibility with proprietary, crippled, niche format is not our worrying!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony_Fan Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Most probably yes.Thanks. I really appreciate your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sinus Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Mini-Toslink, which is only used by Apple and Sony.not true. I have a Samsung laptop with optical out (mini). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sinus Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Oh oh! I'll correct it immediately: Mini-Toslink, which is mainly used by Apple and Sony.Was it a quote from Wikipedia???? Shame on you, Wikipedia!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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