p0rkch0p2007 Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 (edited) hi everyone, i have a question about the atrac advanced lossless codec. as i understand it the whole point of the codec is that u have 2 copies of the file. one which is the lossless file which stays on your computer, and the other file is basically your atrac file (hence the reason it asks you to specify a bit-rate before ripping all your cd's), which is then transfered to your device. am i right or not??? because evertime i put a lossless file on my nws706 it is the same size as the file on my computer (usually about 30mb). doesnt this kind of defeat the point of this lossless codec in the first place??? or once again am i wrong??? any help with this would be greatly appreciated. CHEERS!!! p.s sorry for posting this in the wrong area, my bad Edited May 5, 2007 by p0rkch0p2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navsimpson Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Hiya,Because your Walkman supports ATRAC Lossless natively, SS will just transfer the file as is, regardless of the bitrate you selected. What you'll need to do is right-click on those tracks and select 'Convert Format' and select whichever bitrate you want for your Walkman. This will create a new ATRAC3/plus file, and that's what will transfer. -Nav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0rkch0p2007 Posted May 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 (edited) oh ok. so what is the point in asking for a bit-rate before you rip the cd? for walkmans that dont support atrac lossless natively? also what difference does the bit-rate selection make? i noticed a small difference in file size, but i was just wondering wether there was any noticable difference to sound quality. Edited May 5, 2007 by p0rkch0p2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navsimpson Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Yeah, the bitrate selection is for Walkmans that don't support AAL. What we sorta' guessed that AAL does is keep a lossy copy of the file along with the lossless, so that when it transfers, it can just pull the lossy copy at whatever bitrate you selected. But when it plays on your PC - or if you just transfer the lossless file to your device - it'll sound exactly the same, as it'll be playing a lossless version of the track.Hope this clarifies things a bit. -Nav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0rkch0p2007 Posted May 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 yeah it does. thanks a lot for the info navsimpson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKE. Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 you have it all wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizone_ Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 (edited) First of all, NW-S600, NW-S700 and NW-A800 series support Atrac Advanced Lossless playback. When you transfer Atrac Lossless from computer to your player "file as is" then you will be transferring Atrac Advanced Lossless to your player and the player will play Atrac Lossless. However, if the player do not support Atrac Lossless playback, then the SonicStage will transfer the pre-specified bit-rate you set for the Atrac lossless. The reason for specifying the bit-rate for Atrac Advanced Loss is to save time if you were to transfer that bit rate files. For example, if you set option to transfer file as 352kbps and if the Atrac Advanced Lossless is set to have 352kbps then the file will be transferred without coding again, thus saves a lot of time. If you set to transfer "file as is", then the SonicStage will transfer file as Atrac Advanced Lossless, and the player will be playing Atrac Advanced Lossless, not 352kbps. Edited May 6, 2007 by Zizone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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