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. . . whenever I try and transfer files to the 706 or 808 after using WMA lossless, I get the message: "One or more files cannot be transferred at the current bitrate" - then I have the option of choosing a conversion rate, atrac3plus @ 352kbps. When I looked in SS help pages, it stated that WMA lossless was supported, but if that's true - why are my files being converted into atrac? I don't have a default bitrate set, as I like to choose different rates depending on the music I'm transferring. I want all my classical and instrumental in WMA lossless, not atrac3plus. The average file size of WMA lossless was between 600 and 730kbps.

Does anyone know why SS won't transfer these files? Thanks

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. . . whenever I try and transfer files to the 706 or 808 after using WMA lossless, I get the message: "One or more files cannot be transferred at the current bitrate" - then I have the option of choosing a conversion rate, atrac3plus @ 352kbps. When I looked in SS help pages, it stated that WMA lossless was supported, but if that's true - why are my files being converted into atrac? I don't have a default bitrate set, as I like to choose different rates depending on the music I'm transferring. I want all my classical and instrumental in WMA lossless, not atrac3plus. The average file size of WMA lossless was between 600 and 730kbps.

Does anyone know why SS won't transfer these files? Thanks

As far as I know, NW-S700 series support:

MP3, AAC, WMA, Linear PCM, ATRAC, and ATRAC Lossless

NW-A800 series support:

all of above but Linear PCM.

Both players support WMA but I don't think they support WMA Lossless, but only ATRAC Lossless.

If you own those music in CD, import songs to your computer in ATRAC Lossless and transfer them "as is" to your NW-S700 or NW-A800 series, since these two players support ATRAC Lossless only and not other lossless formats (but they support all other formats that don't belong in lossless family, natively).

Once the songs are in the player, you can see that you are playing ATRAC Lossless by viewing property via Walkman.

It is unfortunate that they only support ATRAC Lossless and no other lossless, e.g. flac, Apple lossless and WMA lossless, but from my experience, ATRAC Lossless works quite well, in terms of sound.

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If you own those music in CD, import songs to your computer in ATRAC Lossless and transfer them "as is" to your NW-S700 or NW-A800 series,

I was using the CD copies, I always burn a copy and leave the original on the shelf where it can't get scratched :) And I've just read the help section again, and can see it supports wma, but not wma lossless. I saw 'atrac advanced lossless' and put the 'lossless' with the wma in my mind. So I guess I have to go get the original CDs off the shelf then. Thanks Zizone

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Don't mention it. I also have all my music in CDs. :) When you import CDs to your computer in ATRAC Lossless may take some time though...

Remember, if you want to playback ATRAC Lossless on your Walkman, set transferring mode "as is".

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If I convert to ATRAC lossless can I later convert the ATRAC file to fx mp3?

I don't think SonicStage allows to change format of ATRAC into other formats. If you want to transfer MP3, then you must import CD or from other source as MP3 into SonicStage and transfer that file "as is" to Walkman. Then the Walkman will be playing MP3 natively without transcoding.

ATRAC Lossless can be transferred in two ways:

let's say when you imported a song from CD with setting of 352kbps ATRAC Advanced Lossless. The bit-rate of ATRAC Lossless is set for future convenience.

If you transfer this file (352kbps ATRAC Advanced Lossless) "as is", then you will be playing ATRAC Lossless in your NW-S700 or NW-A800 series.

But if you set transfer file NOT "as is" instead you set your transfer setting as ATRAC 352kbps, then you will be playing ATRAC3plus 352kbps. So the reason for setting bit-rate when you import from CD to ATRAC Advanced Lossless is when you want to transfer a song with ATRAC3plus but not ATRAC Advanced Lossless, it will be done without any delay, unlike other lossless formats where they need to convert lossless back to lower bit-rate files.

*note that play back of ATRAC Lossless is supported by NW-S700/600 and NW-A800 series only, as of 2007-7-30 (yyyy/m/dd).

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Sonicstage allows you to convert any ATRAC file to .wav now, which is then easy enough to convert to MP3.

Oh yeah right. But that's when you make Audio CD though... I don't think you can do that to Walkman directly...

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