new orleans Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 I am buying my first minidisc and have read about all the new ones. I have not found many reviews of the sony MD-N10. I will be doing mostly live recordings. Does anyone have any advice? The sharp DR7 is a little cheaper, and it sounds better for live recordings, however, the sony looks like it made some big improvements from it's early models and it is pretty catchy with its slim look. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Yes, I would also like to know the answer to this as I'm trying to find something to replace my current crappy cassette recorder for rehearsals, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Sharp's are generally better units for live recordings as the features that each Sharp unit have, enable it to adjust recording levels on the fly while 4 Sony units, the units have to be in pause mode 4 this 2 happen.... If you are mainly going to be using the unit for live recordings and not realli care about d/l music files from your computer then i would suggest u go 4 the DR7...the N10 is a nice unit but it is not without its flaws... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 If you don't care for NetMD, go DR7 - even if you can't tell if it sounds better, it surely is built better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new orleans Posted January 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 I thought I read somewhere that the Sony N10 now allows you to change the recording levels during a recording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 It does if you set it to manual recording mode, not much of a task :roll:. Personally, I think either would be good, although i'm certain now my Sharp DR7 will take more abuse than any new Sony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 I thought I read somewhere that the Sony N10 now allows you to change the recording levels during a recording?when it paused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 errr. Are you sure about that? That's old sony. New sony lets you go into manual mode, then adjust the levels while it's recording... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 errr. Are you sure about that? That's old sony. New sony lets you go into manual mode, then adjust the levels while it's recording...unlike you I have MZ-N10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengin Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Also, don't forget that the DR7 has trace back recording. So it allows you to 'store' the first bit of sound. So bascially, recording takes a few seconds for the head to move to the right portion of the disk. During those that small amount of time, you might miss something important. So, trace back recording lets you store that information. Just a little extra feature I guess. Also, the DR7 has 64 hours of max recording time compared to the N10's 52 hours record. ... derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 unlike you I have MZ-N10Oh, once again Sony regresses :roll: *feels extra glad he got the DR7 instead of the N10* and unlike the N10, the DR7 is built extra good, no breaking after a year on this unit 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new orleans Posted January 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 thanks, Im going to get a D-7 on monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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me Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Silly silly, considering I look inside my Sharp and find it bolted up like a tank, look at an N1 and it's so flimsy in comparison, that and Sony's reliability isn't the best (look at these N1's dropping like flies). However, considering you think you've won this argument, I'll just shut up..... and wait for the N10s to die :twisted: Well you're right, but if I was going to bet, it sure as hell wouldn't be on an N10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostChordSearcher Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I wouldn't be so sure that the MZ-N10 won't let you adjust record levels while recording. I once got into an argument with someone who claimed the MZ-N707 wouldn't let you do on-the-fly level adjustment. He had an MZ-N707 and said he was sure of himself. Unfortunately for him, I also have a '707 and I'm 110% sure that it will let you adjust record levels on the fly, as I use that feature all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I have an N10 and it DEFINITELY WILL change the record level on the fly during recording. You set it to manual recording level when in record pause mode, then start the recording. Once you start the recording, you simply turn the knob on the side of the unit that is usually used to select menus. The display will show the record level going up and down as you do it. I tried this a month ago and verified the recording afterward as having had the record level go up and down according to my turning of the knob. Anybody who says it cannot do this simply does not know how to operate their player. Also, the quality of the N10 is excellent. It is very robust. I cannot imagine the build quality of a Sharp being substantially better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Yay! I was certain it did.. But is the N10 internals still plastic? Look inside a DR7 at bic or yodobashi, it's practically armour plated. I imagine the N10 and DR7 would be fine for everyday usage, but the DR7 looks to me like it would survive more 'crashes' than the N10. This assumes they haven't changed much since the N1, R909. and R900.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Seems like the stuff inside wouldn't matter. If you drop it, the case will protect the internals: a lightweight plastic part would not "self load" enough from a drop to cause damage. I wouldn't be dropping any of these, however, unless that is an upgrade strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 The case doesn't always protect the internals.. I guess it's somewhat like getting internal bleeding.. Hmm, I've found a good idea for a case, somewhat bulky but very good. think "beachball" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 I looked inside my N10 with a flashlight and couldn't see any plastic. Metal screw drive for lens etc, motor to spin disc, can't imagine what other mechanical parts there are. I'll try to remember to look at the DR-7 next time I am at BIC to have a better comparison. I think the N10 is very well built and will be robust. Remember, I am a Sony bigot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonMagus Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 I wouldn't be so sure that the MZ-N10 won't let you adjust record levels while recording. I once got into an argument with someone who claimed the MZ-N707 wouldn't let you do on-the-fly level adjustment. He had an MZ-N707 and said he was sure of himself. Unfortunately for him, I also have a '707 and I'm 110% sure that it will let you adjust record levels on the fly, as I use that feature all the time.I don't own a Sony unit, but from my piecing-together of everything I've heard on the subject - I've heard that the N707 DOES let you do this, but Sony for some reason has dropped this on later units. Thing to remember - unless you want to continually screw and unscrew your N10 unit, it seems as if the "built-in battery" puts you at the mercy of the recharging station for long travels when you want to take MD with you. This could potentially be VERY unportable, as I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 SimonMagus, I would agree with your comment if you were referring to the E10, but the N10 has the external battery pack that would give you unlimited power through the purchase of AA batteries if you ran out. That said, travelling with a charger is not a big deal. I carry the battery pack and a small travel charger with universal voltage capability (100V-240V). You don't need the cradle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonMagus Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 SimonMagus, I would agree with your comment if you were referring to the E10, but the N10 has the external battery pack that would give you unlimited power through the purchase of AA batteries if you ran out. That said, travelling with a charger is not a big deal. I carry the battery pack and a small travel charger with universal voltage capability (100V-240V). You don't need the cradle.Thanks for the helpful comments, Leland (as I am still torn between the DR7 and N10...in a perfect world I'd just buckle under and get both - I have the cash, but something keeps holding me back! :roll: ) If I travel with the N10 I would rather not pollute the environment by throwing out AAs all the time...it sounds like you're saying it's not that hard to get at the internal rechargeable to replace with a backup gumpack while you recharge the old one...for instance? ANd which universal voltage-capability charger are you using? The Sony BC-7HT? I might go with the Sony since I already have the Sharp MT880 so as to get the best of both worlds... But I'd also like some opinions on the N10's live recording capabilities...can people tell the difference in quality between the N10's new ATRAC Type-R "highest version" (as per minidisc.org's equipment browser) and the previous version? I know Brian Youn mentioned he didn't hear a difference and didn't consider it important, but that's one person's opinion...and since I know Sharp is great for this, I'm hoping that the N10 might show an improvement, both for live recording and realtime music recording (I have heard that the new encoders do NOT work with NetMD). A lot to throw in to one message, I know...but I always appreciate hands-on user opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Regarding the recording level, I know that my Sharp 888 keeps the setting in memory when I stop the recording /and / or shut off the unit. Is it also the case with Sony's ? (I think not). That could be very annoying when recording "on the field", if you need to go back somewhere in a menu to adjust level, every time you change the media or shut off the unit. On the other hand, Sharp's do not have an automatic level feature, (read you have to adjust level all the time) and that can be useful also in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 I have an N10 and it DEFINITELY WILL change the record level on the fly during recording. You set it to manual recording level when in record pause mode, then start the recording. Once you start the recording, you simply turn the knob on the side of the unit that is usually used to select menus. The display will show the record level going up and down as you do it. I tried this a month ago and verified the recording afterward as having had the record level go up and down according to my turning of the knob. Anybody who says it cannot do this simply does not know how to operate their player. Also, the quality of the N10 is excellent. It is very robust. I cannot imagine the build quality of a Sharp being substantially better.You're correct, also Rewind and FastForward can be used, so the remote can be used for that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 I looked inside my N10 with a flashlight and couldn't see any plastic. Metal screw drive for lens etc, motor to spin disc, can't imagine what other mechanical parts there are. I'll try to remember to look at the DR-7 next time I am at BIC to have a better comparison. I think the N10 is very well built and will be robust. Remember, I am a Sony bigot Sony improved? Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osiris96 Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I wouldn't be so sure that the MZ-N10 won't let you adjust record levels while recording. I once got into an argument with someone who claimed the MZ-N707 wouldn't let you do on-the-fly level adjustment. He had an MZ-N707 and said he was sure of himself. Unfortunately for him, I also have a '707 and I'm 110% sure that it will let you adjust record levels on the fly, as I use that feature all the time.I own both the N10 and the DR7 and if anyone wants to buy an N10, I am selling mine. It was a big waste of money and there was way too much hype over the 10-year special edition. If anyone can hear my plea, take the DR-7 over the N10 any day! The DR7 sounds better, feels better, and will do on the fly recording level adjustments. The N10 will ony adjust in pause mode, I promise! If you need the N10 to adjust while recording, you will need a battery module like ones at soundprofessionals.com. N10: sucks! DR7: ROCKS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I own both the N10 and the DR7 and if anyone wants to buy an N10, I am selling mine. It was a big waste of money and there was way too much hype over the 10-year special edition. If anyone can hear my plea, take the DR-7 over the N10 any day! The DR7 sounds better, feels better, and will do on the fly recording level adjustments. The N10 will ony adjust in pause mode, I promise! If you need the N10 to adjust while recording, you will need a battery module like ones at soundprofessionals.com. N10: sucks! DR7: ROCKS!!!N10 does have manual level adjustments while recording (not only when paused), you can do it on the unit itself or using the remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 I have an N10 and it DEFINITELY WILL change the record level on the fly during recording. You set it to manual recording level when in record pause mode, then start the recording. Once you start the recording, you simply turn the knob on the side of the unit that is usually used to select menus. The display will show the record level going up and down as you do it. I tried this a month ago and verified the recording afterward as having had the record level go up and down according to my turning of the knob. Does the MZ-N1 do this? I'm new, saved a hundred bucks and didn't get the N10 (yes Sony fan)... I'm asking because I'm buying mic's with battery module, etc and not sure if I need to get level control or not. Do you need to monitor it/adjust while recording? From the instructions I'm it appears you pause, adjust, resume- no good. Or set it before and thats it. So many choices and questions! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichitaka Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 i m not too sure about the N1 cos i dont own one, but if it's anything similar to N10, then adjusting the recording level manually during recording IS POSSIBLE. the drawback is that apparently the default setting is AUTO, so each time u want to adjust manually, you have to run thru several steps; and once u press stop, then it goes back to auto level control again. at least this is wat the manual tells me; i havent had a chance to test it since i havent bought a mic. hope this clears up some of the arguments? i suppose quoting the manual is as accurate as it gets, or does sony have a reputation for printing inaccurate stuff too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 I'd like to buy a N10! How much are u selling it for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 Hmm, I have heard about this sharp record memory function - anyone have an idea of how it actually works? Does it just mean you record as soon as you hit the button, or can you actually have it set so that you can hear something, then press record 10 seconds later and still get it? Because that would be pretty useful... If it is just a way of making sure the record button reacts quickly, I hear Sonys are pretty fast on the uptake, with almost no lag between pressing the button and recording starting - something I was told was not the case for the sharp 888 - could it be that sony actually do better than sharp on something? Surely not. Cheers.... S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 do i assume correctly that the sharp dr7 has english menus too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulio! Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 The Sharp memory record function works by recording the segment of time (10 seconds, I believe) immediately preceding when the record button is pushed. This is a great function for recording live shows, because it gives you the opportunity to wait until the band starts playing without missing any of the opening notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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