Guest Anonymous Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 I'm considering buying a minidisc player. Sound quality is important to me which is why i tend to stay away from MP3. How does the sound quality of the LP2 and LP4 modes compare to MP3. How much is it compressed? Is MP3 compressed 12 times? How much are each of the two modes compressed and how much play time does each get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobo-jimbo Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hi Firstly i certainly suggest you get an md player, nowadays you can get them so small it is amazing Secondly, I can hardly notice the differance between the different recording modes, and i think that very few can. Lastly, LP2 is times 2, eg a 90 min disc will then be 180 and LP4 is times 4 for example a 90 min disc will be 360 mins, thats 6 hours and i think that that is amazing for such a tiny thing hope this was of help to you jobo-jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 I can notice a certain difference between LP2 & LP4. For me, LP2 sounds great--certainly better than any MP3s I've heard. But when compared to the original source, it does lack power. Plenty of bass for my car stereo, crisp highs and strong sound overall, but there's something missing that you don't notice until you bring in the CD. By the same right, though, I've heard sounds come through on an LP2 recording that I never noticed before in the source CD. Go figure. LP4 to me sounds brittle--the sound is there, but it's dirtier and certainly not as strong. I wouldn't use it for music, but for voice (spoken word concerts, comedy albums, etc) it's perfect. I don't notice the difference with a spoken LP4 recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Sound quality is important to me which is why i tend to stay away from MP3.That MP3=bad is a misconception. Microsoft and Sony try to make MP3 seem bad to popularize their own formats. Naturally, they use encoders based on the FhG limited ISO source, and they all make poor-sounding MP3's. The truth is, MP3 is pretty decent. It definitely doesn't compete with Vorbis at lower bitrates or MPC at higher bitrates, but it holds its own. Listen to the MP3 stored here and try and tell me that it sounds bad. It's easy to think that something sucks when nobody can do it right. CDex - A CD ripper. Lame - The best MP3 encoder out there. It can be set up to spawn from CDex or almost any other CD ripper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudden Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Quality wise I think you can compare a mp3 in 320kbit as a SP mindisc, mp3 in 192kbit = LP2 and mp3 in 112kbit = LP4. Just to give you an idea of the sound deterioration trough the modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 It depends on what MP3 encoder you're using. I'd say for ATRAC vs LAME... SP = 256kbps LP2 = 128kbps LP4 = 96kbps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daijoubu Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 If you hold the original CD, then checkout a loseless wav instead of transcoding a MP3! Anyway quality wise, i would say EAC is better than CDex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 That's for sure. However I recommend CDex because there's less configuration and the ripping speed is a little faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 All the songs that I am going to be putting on minidiscs are off the original cd's, Therefore WAV (for the most part). Basically I will be putting my cd collection on mindiscs for traveling purposes. So If I copy the cd onto a minidisc using LP4 would that be better quality than mp3. Cause it would be perfect if i could put four of my cd's on one minidisc and still have acceptable quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudden Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 LP4 will be better than a low encoded mp3, under 112kbit. Since most mp3 nowdays are 192kbit and better you can't hope to have better sound than any mp3, just low quality mp3. I have some MD discs in LP4 and they sound good to me, and to put 320 minutes on one disc are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 LP4 should be great as long as the environment you're listening in has some sort of background noise. From what I've heard, LP4, like low-bitrate MP3, has some artifacts that are clear and distracting, but they're really only noticeable when you're in very quiet surroundings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Depending on the song, I can even notice the difference in my car (yes, as I drive). LP4 isn't true stereo, and there are quite a few artifacts (or maybe I just listen to dumb music, which is my girlfriend's suggestion). It's the squishy sound that distracts me (very messy highs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 I guess LP4 uses some sort of badly-implemented Joint-Stereo? Lame actually uses Joint Stereo over the whole bitrate spectrum. the difference is that Lame has a VERY good jstereo implementation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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