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Well I posted a message a few days back on what seemed the relevant board, but I didn't get much response so I thought I'd try here. I'm sorry to thrash the same old subject but I'd really appreciate any opinions: -

"I have been browsing this community for some time now, trying to find out what kind of set-up I need for what I want to do, but there's so much information and a lot of it over my head (bit long in the tooth I think LOL) that I've decided to just straight out ASK what folks' opinions are.

I want to record live concerts of loud rock and blues rock music, usually in small venues. I will always seek permission first so I don't have to hide my gear tho I also take photos so it needs to be attached to me, if you get me LOL. I am not flush with money but I'm prepared to save to get the gear that will do the job, since I'll only be wanting to buy it once - I don't care if it's the latest state-of-the-art offering or 10 years out of date and second hand, so long as I can transfer to CD which will then be either for my use or for the purposes of spreading the word about a band, with no view to making any profit.

I've tried a few times with an MD a mate in the US sent me which seems to be not the right kit for the job - a Sony Net MD MZ-N707, I have no idea where he got the mics or what make etc they are. I've had unbearable and bad-but-you-can-just-about-cope results with it but the distortion was horrible, even when recording very quietly.

So - I think I'd better get myself geared up with the right stuff because I've got a bee in my bonnet now and any advice would be appreciated. If you have a strong opinion please tell me what MD and mic combination you would buy, for what I want to do with it.

Cheers "

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for live recording purposes i would recoomend you take a look at the Sharp range of MD units...the new unit such as the DR420 is relatively cheap now and does the job well...in terms of mics i have no clue about which brands to use sorry since on my MD i just use a small Sony one...for live recordings i usually hook my laptop up to the mixer directly and record using a Creative Extigy from the output of the mixer...if i record directly from mics i usually hook the mics (usually Sennheiser ones) they use up to a Balanced Audio unit and record it from there with the same Exitgy...

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You can record with a pair of stereo mics into a Sharp (definitely recommended over the atrocious Sony) MD, but you will need a battery box to power your mics for distortion-free results. Have a look www.soundprofessionals.com. There is a range of mini-mic pairs (I use the CM6 with omni capsules with great results, but my needs may be different -- many people swear by cardioids for concert recording). If you don't have so much to spend, you can buy a more modest pair for considerably less. But get the battery box. Have fun.

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I agree about the battery box. You might even want to go one step further with a mic preamp which will give you a cleaner recording than the minidisc recorder's preamp. The preamp (like from Sound Professionals) is expensive but it would allow you to go with a line-in-only recorder.

I've never used an attenuator cable but you might consider that.

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lots of solutions out there but here is what worked for me:

Sharp mt-80 : not the newest thing going, but a nice euro model with relatively clean mic preamps. I compared it to the $200 preamp from minidisco.com, and it compared very favorably, actually, maybe a bit better than the offboard preamp.(when using pre amp and line in).

I strongly recommend a battery box for anything louder than about 80 dB (say, a grand piano at 10 feet) I have had a lot of distortion even on relatively low sensitivity levels on a lot of louder recordings with out one.

I built my own mics using cheap tandy (radioshack) mic capsules and some shielded wire, and have had great results. cost about $5 and are at least as good as some in the $100 range.

As a quality check (just so I wasn't fooling myself) I had a couple of audio engineer geek friends check out some of the recording and they all were highly impressed, especially considering my entire kit was less than $150

(MT-80 used at $80, mics built for about $10, battery box for $40)

In short, unless you are making something to sell on the proaudio market, you don't have to spend a fortune. Good luck

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Guest Anonymous

Berky? That your name? Well chosen. Nuff said there too I think. This is the second time I asked the question and the other time got almost zip response. Get a life, not everyone else knows the ins and outs of every fucking model on the market, twat.

To the rest of you, thanks.

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