Guest Anonymous Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hi. A newbie here with a question. have owned various md's for years and some decks aswell but got a net md - an mzn-505 yesterday. I'm not sure if I'm using it correctly for recording. I use OpenMg but I'm downloading M3U2SB burner as I write this. It takes about 15 - 20 mins to record from cd on my laptop to my Md - and it has to go to the hard drive too, which I dont want. Is this recording time right? I though it would be faster. My laptop is a flyer - 2ghz pentium 4 with a rake of RAM so I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. I set the bit rate to 66mhz and I record with LP4. Any coments on the speed on the recording? Much appreciated.h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 use SimpleBurner to bypass this since it goes from CD -> MD through ur laptop on the fly without going thru ur hdd...it should lessen the time it takes to transfer files over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerkY Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Takes me about 5 mins or less using SonicStage transferring a full album to my MD at 32x using LP2 format... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 okay cheers but does that mena that sonic stage is faster than open mg? and also is there any quicker program that converts from windows media player format to .omg faster than openmg 'cause openmg takes forever to convert. and one last thing! if i have a minidisc that i recorded on my normal md - so it has no names or titles on it, can i get openmg to send the names to the md or do i have to type them in manually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 okay cheers but does that mena that sonic stage is faster than open mg? and also is there any quicker program that converts from windows media player format to .omg faster than openmg 'cause openmg takes forever to convert.openmg and sonicstage are basically the same program with just different GUI...so it should take more or less the same time to convert...and i don't know of other software that will allow you to encode in .omg since this is Sony's proprietary format and i doubt they'd have licenced it out to other software companies... and one last thing! if i have a minidisc that i recorded on my normal md - so it has no names or titles on it, can i get openmg to send the names to the md or do i have to type them in manually?u can use openmg to title your md's using your keyboard via the USB connection to the MD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 thanks. but if i have a recorded md with an album on it, can i use openmg to send the names etc to the md, or do i have to type them in manually with the keyboard? i'm asking because before i got my net md last week, i recoreded dozens of albums and most of these have no names on them. does anyone know of any tips/tricks to allow more labelling on md's - apart from abbreviating names etc? i always run out of name memory on my recordings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 u need 2 type them out manually with the keyboard...and the songs i usually title fit perfectly on the MD i record...i use LP2 as a min quality setting so maybe that's one of the reasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 i see. obviously if i'm using lp4 i'll have more songs on the md so more names and less space. do you genuinely notice a difference between lp4 and lp2? is it worth sacrificing space on the md for the extra sound quality? also i noticed that if i record to my hdd with media player then import to openmg and check out the album - it goes straight to the md with no option for recording format (i.e. lp2, lp4 etc). is this becuase it has already been converted to atrac 3 so it has to be lp4? on my 505, one of the recording options is sp - is this just normal stereo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerkY Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 i see. obviously if i'm using lp4 i'll have more songs on the md so more names and less space. do you genuinely notice a difference between lp4 and lp2? is it worth sacrificing space on the md for the extra sound quality? Hell yea! There is a huge difference. The music sounds so "mechanic" when played in LP4. I can tell the difference. However, when listened outside in busy traffic that difference is less obvious. If space is very important for you than quality then copy in LP4 mode. also i noticed that if i record to my hdd with media player then import to openmg and check out the album - it goes straight to the md with no option for recording format (i.e. lp2, lp4 etc). is this becuase it has already been converted to atrac 3 so it has to be lp4?How can there be no option? When you copy the album it is already imported to OpenMG or SonicStage. Then when checkiing-out the song you should be able to choose the format. And SP means standard play. ie with no compression and highest quality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 well when i record to media player, then import to openmg - it just converts to openmg - no options. then at the check out screen - its just check out or not - no options for quality? also does the record mode (lp2, lp4) that i set on my md itself have any bearing on the recording mode when i'm using usb or does openmg control/override any settings on the md? i recorded nirvana to my hdd with openmg at best quality - 132kps. theni set my md to sp to test the sound at its best, but it recorded at lp2. then at check out screen there is no option to adjuct record quality! so how do i record - through openmg to get names etc - onto md at top quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerkY Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 The settings are independent... ie. when you choose to record from SonicStage or OpenMG jukebox at LP2 it copies it as LP2 as you told the program to record it as LP2... Then you take out your optic cable and connect it to your stereo and choose to copy at SP and it will copy as SP. Simple as that... Dont confuse yourself with setting things manually. The program does it all for you... You only change it in the program when you want to copy using the USB cable. With the optic cable you have to set it yourself as there is no interface on the HiFi to change it. You have to do it on the MD YOURSELF!!! I do not understand how you set it to SP as you say?!?!? When you record at a certain ATRAC format like SP, LP2 or LP4 you cannot set or change anything on the MD. The MD will play the music in whatever format you RECORDED it. Best quality you are talking about is LP2 mode!!! That's why it records in LP2 mode!!! You can ONLY copy music at 132kbps when using OpenMG jukebox or SonicStage. So the highest quality will be LP2 quality. Sp quality is somewhere around 292kbps which is not available in that program. You can only tell the program to be compatible with SP mode. There is a SP option in SonicStage and it is not TRUE SP. It just copies it so that older players can play the disc. I am talking about older players that do not support MDLP and hence LP2 and LP4 modes. So if you want true SP quality, then you will have to record using the optic cable. And you will need a HiFi with a digital out. To sum it all up for you, DO NOT CHANGE THE SETTINGS ON THE MD WHEN RECORDING FROM THE COMPUTER. THE SETTINGS ON THE MD ARE USELESS. ONLY CHANGE THOSE SETTINGS WHEN YOU COPY FROM OTHER SOUCES LIKE THE MIC IN OR OPT IN (FROM YOUR HIFI)... ALSO REMEMBER YOU CANNOT RECORD IN TRUE SP FROM THE COMPUTER. YOU NEED A HIFI FOR THAT... LAST THING, YOU CAN ONLY CHECK-OUT WHAT YOU HAVE CHECKED-IN... IE. IF IT IS LP2 FORMAT THEN YOU CAN ONLY CHECK IT OUT IN LP2 PHEW.... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 cheers for the replies. so when i'm burning to hdd should i use 132kbps with openmg? then it will record at lp2? is the nero method much better than openmg? what are the benefits? when i record using simple burner, it seems to take forever, about twice as long as with openmg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 cheers for the replies. so when i'm burning to hdd should i use 132kbps with openmg? then it will record at lp2? is the nero method much better than openmg? what are the benefits? well basically there's an option in OMG to ask which mode u want to encode it to...i usually choose LP2...and with the nero + simpleburner method the advantage over transfering through OMG is that the tracks transfered using the Nero/SimpleBurner method u can edit and delete from your MD recorder whereas those transfered through OMG cannot...(if you want to delete songs from the MD you have to do it via computer...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 okay cheers. when i'm copying to hdd and md with openmg, and i want to use lp2, do i have a choice of 132kpbs or 105 kpbs - i.e. are these both lp2. and if so does one take up more space than the other on the disc? does lp4 have to be 66kpbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 choose the bitrate of 132kbps since this is LP2 and the 105kbps is specifically for their memory stick network walkmans and NOT for NetMD's so it won't work...and yes LP4 is 66kbps...can't be changed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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