Guest Anonymous Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 what on earth is TYpe R and TYpe S function on the new pdf for upcoming minidisc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Type-R / Type-S denotes the latest incarnations of the ATRAC codec used in conventional MD-Recorders. It simply means, that your new Hi-MD unit will play back all recordings that you made with existing equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewchamp Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 This is not a very good answer to your question. One of them is a newer version of sony's music compression system. One works better with MDLP, sorry I can't give you more info but i am new at this also. If you want more info you can find it at. www.minidisc.org. There is also a forum at this site called T-STATION where you will also get a better ans to your question. Hope this helps you. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 I know I won't be using MDLP. But I have still trying to fig. out if I should use the uncompress PCM mode at 1.4 Mbps sampling rate or the next one down, approx. 5 times less sampling rate but w/ 8 hr. of recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewchamp Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 NO PROBLEM I AM STILL CONVINCES YOU WILL FIND WHAT YOU NEED AT THE SITE I MENTIONED IN MY LAST THREAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Well, I suspect, that Hi-SP will have atleast the same Quality as SP on a classic MD. Going out on that assumption, HI-SP will be fully sufficient, unless you decide to create a Master-disk for commercial CD-Production. Tried a (non-scientific) listening test between my MDS-JE500 and 2 different CD-Players and the result was, that the difference between Original and MD-Copy was smaller than the difference between the two CD-Players... And Hi-SP should have the same quality as the latest Atrac-R codec, as lower quality wouldn't make much sense... That should give you a first impression, what to expect. But we only know for sure, when the first Hi-MD-recorders end up in users hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewchamp Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Trpe R or S do not have much to do with HI-MD as they are just diff code systems for encoding music for MD'S. Most MD'S will play both S and R encoded MD'S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Actually, Type S is a decoder, not an encoder. It improves playback quality of MDLP recorded tracks, and has no effect on recording (encoding) quality. ATRAC3 is still used (as it always has been) for MDLP on Sony machines. Type R is still the best encoder for SP mode recordings - every MD unit ever made will play back Type R recordings, and benefit from its (relatively) superior encoding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Well, I suspect, that Hi-SP will have atleast the same Quality as SP on a classic MD. Going out on that assumption, HI-SP will be fully sufficient, unless you decide to create a Master-disk for commercial CD-Production. Tried a (non-scientific) listening test between my MDS-JE500 and 2 different CD-Players and the result was, that the difference between Original and MD-Copy was smaller than the difference between the two CD-Players... And Hi-SP should have the same quality as the latest Atrac-R codec, as lower quality wouldn't make much sense... That should give you a first impression, what to expect. But we only know for sure, when the first Hi-MD-recorders end up in users hands.but it highly depends on which CD you use to test. I would say CD with low freq. music is the best one to find out the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 No, it's best to test thoroughly. And in any case it's usually the high frequencies (>12kHz) that encoders have trouble with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 I have moved this topic to Technical Topics, please post in the correct subforum next time. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 No, it's best to test thoroughly. And in any case it's usually the high frequencies (>12kHz) that encoders have trouble with.That's true. However, the source material must be good in quality itself. Did the test with classical music (the local Library in my town has a wide choice to rent... ) and Jazz (Thom Rhotella / Without Words and Marcus Miller / M2). Especially the razor sharp bass riffs on 'M2' are quite a challenge for the encoder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maia Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 The encoding bit of Type S and Type R are the same. So, encoding with any of this ATRAC Type will result on a "virtually" same disc. Type S does improve LP2 and LP4 decoding over Type R... :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 i thought Type R was just for recording SP tracks and Type S uses Type R for recording but also uses the newer DSP to decode LP tracks??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Yes, that's just about right, mAjEsTiC. Think of Type S as exactly the same as Type R, but with better decoding (ie. playback) for MDLP tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethyrmaster Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 So then is DSP Type S just an enhanced type R? It sounds as though type S is S+R, and R is just R. Will type R recorders play type S discs, and vice versa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAjEsTiC Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 yup the Type S is an enhanced Type R...like i said in my previous post "Type R is just for recording SP tracks and Type S uses Type R for recording but also uses the newer DSP to decode LP tracks"...and yes they're compatible with each other as they're still recording in the same ATRAC formats as each other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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