jthm Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Just how exactly will live recording work on Hi-MD, how much will the mics cost and how long can I record for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Live recording on Hi-MD will work in the same way as for standard MD. If you're unfamilar with that, then the simplest scenario is: Plug a mic into the mic-in jack, press record, pause to adjust rec levels and play to begin. On a 1GB disk, you can record up to 94 minutes uncompressed PCM (the highest quality), about 8 hours at Hi-SP (256kbps) and so on. You can use a standard (re-formatted) minidisc which gives you 305MB or about 1/3 the capacity. You should get a maximum of 7-10 hours recording time depending on the model. Check the Hi-MD FAQ for more info. Mics cost anything upwards of $10, though expect to pay around $80-100 for a decent one. Avoid Sony mics, they look nice but have a limited frequency range. Take a look at the sound professionals for some examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kents Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 That's not the understanding I just got from reading the following from a UK BBS ... (paste from another bbs ...) I, perhaps with others, had been very interested in getting a Hi-MD recorder for highly portable field recording. I recently contacted Sony UK to check whether the linear PCM uncompressed format can be used through the analogue microphone input or Line in. It appears that the linear PCM mode is only available through the digital in. Therefore this new system will not be as beneficial as I had thought. Below is the reply I received from Sony UK. I replied asking for details of the highest quality available through the mic in and if Sony beleive this to be an improvement over standard MD. ----- Dear Mr Gibbings Thank you for your recent enquiry. With Linear PCM mode, record and playback in high Quality sound without compressing the sound source is possible. However, this type of recording can only be made via the digital optical connection and so, will not function with the analogue Microphone input. I hope this information is of assistance to you, although I apologise for any disappointment caused. Finally, if you need to reply to this e-mail, please quote reference 118362044 in the subject field of your e-mail. With Regards John Donnelly For and on behalf of Sony United Kingdom Limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fray Adjacent Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 What? No PCM recording from the Mic in? Only the Optical? Wouldn't that only serve to make it easier to make lossless copies of other audio sources? Sony's logic never ceases to amaze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazmaan Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 That is a MAJOR disappointment and may well be the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I won't pay top dollar for crippleware! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekdroid Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 What? No PCM recording from the Mic in? Only the Optical? :wacky: lol, could this actually be true? If so, I'm ready to pronounce it dead :laugh: This has gotta be the guy from Sony not knowing what the hell he's talking about, I hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 No analog to Linear-PCM? That would be braindead... And it wouldn't make any sense - except for the fact, that Sony sells DAT-Recorders as well. But DAT is a dying format, almost nowhere available and hopelessly expensive, so I still think, it doesn't makes sense. Let's hope, it isn't true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 I don't understand the tech talk here.. but am looking to upgrade to the Hi-Md 800 for recording and editing purposes. does this info mean that i can't use my sony mic i use with the N-10 for the hi md? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ_Palmer Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Don't worry, you can use the same old mic with your new Hi-MD recorder. The debate is about whether you can record with a mic to the maximum (PCM = CD standard) quality, which no-one knows at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant420 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 I called Sony's 800# for detailed product info, and was told that the hi-md model mznhf800 will record in PCM quality from the analog input, so no worries, mic recording is possible in the highest sound quality mode, a.k.a. PCM WAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazmaan Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 "For true audio purists, you can record from CD, MD, DVD or live in uncompressed PCM audio for true CD quality." Thats from the Sony. I guess its still a little obscure as to whether "live" = "from mic input". But how could you record "live" from an optical input? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 But how could you record "live" from an optical input?By using a portable Microphone-Amp+A/D-Converter combination. I'm too lazy to look that one up now, so I recommend to use a search-engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Yeah, it's not very hard at all. Most of the serious recording enthusiasts around here use that type of interface exclusively. Look over some of the posts in the Live Recording forum - you'll learn a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazmaan Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Yes I know you could use an a/d converter, but my point is that Sony wouldn't be advertising its "live" PCM recording capabilities unless you could record "live" out of the box without needing additional hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsainsbury Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Mics cost anything upwards of $10, though expect to pay around $80-100 for a decent one. Avoid Sony mics, they look nice but have a limited frequency range. Take a look at the sound professionals for some examples.Just a quick comment on this - I have an ECM-MS907 - a perfectly good mic, but you say about range - so what? MD will just lose the "bits" that it dosn't need anyway and just record what you can hear...whats the point of buying an expensive mic only for the actual recording device to trash have the range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Yes I know you could use an a/d converter, but my point is that Sony wouldn't be advertising its "live" PCM recording capabilities unless you could record "live" out of the box without needing additional hardware.No offense, but are you unaware that Sony = misconception? :sleep: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focal Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Hi I found this kind of info, i hope its correct... http://www.sony.net/Products/Hi-MD/quality.html "Recording with a microphone. Linear PCM mode is compatible with digital, analog, and microphone recording; you can record and play back in high quality sound, without compressing the original sound source. This function can be used in various ways such as recording a music performance. " K.V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazmaan Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Thanks for link Focal. In addition to the text you quoted, the link shows a girl with an acoustic guitar recording PCM live into a HI-MD recorder. Hopefully this is the last word on this subject and will serve to squelch any rumors that PCM is disabled for mic input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Indeed. Once I recieve my NH900 I will make a final word, if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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