souls Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 hello Hi-MD,Creative HDD mp3 palyer(all models) ,i-pod or i-river,which is worth to buy? can anyone compare them and give me some suggestion. They are almost in the same price range ,it make me hard to make a decision. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwakrz Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 It all depends on what you plan on doing with the player. I have gone for Hi-MD for a few reasons 1. I have no luck with HDD based players (I have broken all that I have ever had) 2. I have LOADS of 74 & 80 min MD's from previous MD units I have owned. 3. I have had an N900 for ages. It looks like it has been through a shreader, dropped and sat on (bent out of shape, I had to re-bend it back) from the marks on the outside of the case. AND IT STILL WORKS!!! I hope the NH1 lives upto the N900 in terms of usability and robustness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyther Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 You mean R900? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwakrz Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Yeah, R900. I was still asleep when I posted that. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I just got the Sony NW-HD1, 20 gig HDD player. It's really cool. Very small and light, good capacity, stylish design, much better than all other makers except apple, long battery life claim. It also claims to have a sophisticated HDD protection system using accelerometers to detect potential shocks and retract the head. For me, it was an easy decision. I wanted a HDD player so I didn't have to carry so many MD's with me and all my music is in a Sonicstage database. I didn't want to have to rebuild a 6000 song database, so the Sony device was up and running with 14 gigs of music in less than 30 minutes. Plus it has a fine overall feature set. It's a little expensive, but that doesn't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananatree Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 You need to think about how you are going to use your player before you just get someone to tell you what to buy. If you have a Mac for example, go with the iPod or iRiver. The iPod works seamlessly with the Mac iTunes, and the iRiver works as a mass storage drive. You can also use Hi-MD if you don't mind real-time recording. If you have a PC and alot of MP3s, the iPod, iRiver and the Creative models are all pretty good choices. With the iPod leading the pack as it has the easiest GUI and sounds great. The Creative Zen, Iriver IHP-120 and the iPod and iPod mini are all worthy contenders. The only real advantage HI-MD has is its ability to make high-quality recordings from sources other than computers, as well as it has removable media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souls Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 thanks for your reply~~ I will use it to play mp3 files which are uploaded from computer. The source is the mp3 file only. So, is it suitable to use Hi-MD to play thoses converted mp3 file(converted to atrac3+)? thank you~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I will use it to play mp3 files which are uploaded from computer. The source is the mp3 file only.If that is the case, you should use a native MP3 player rather than MiniDisc. So, is it suitable to use Hi-MD to play thoses converted mp3 file(converted to atrac3+)?It can. However, since it has to transcode the file from MPEG Layer-3 Audio to ATRAC3plus, you will have additional compression artifacts introduced into the music. This is not so noticeable if the source MP3 is a first-generation encoding, but it is still not the best way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwakrz Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Your best bet will most probably be a HDD based MP3 player (NOT the sony MZ-HD1) However if you have already invested in any part of minidisc (blanks etc) then, like me, you may consider going with Hi-MD. Hi-MD will transcode from MP3 to Atrac and allow you to play them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 go with the hdd player :cool: :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souls Posted August 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Your best bet will most probably be a HDD based MP3 player (NOT the sony MZ-HD1) However if you have already invested in any part of minidisc (blanks etc) then, like me, you may consider going with Hi-MD. Hi-MD will transcode from MP3 to Atrac and allow you to play them back.How about the quality of the atrac transcoded from mp3? is it bad? or just a little bit worse than the source mp3? thx~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmp64 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 If you, for example, convert a high-quality 256K MP3 to Hi-SP (256K ATRAC3Plus) - you probably won't notice much, if any difference. But the only reasons that I think you'd want to do that (as opposed to just getting an MP3 player) is because you either like the concept of using very cheap removeable media, (as opposed to say, an SD card) - or you also use your MD for other things (for example, I record the audio from movies and TV shows to MD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souls Posted August 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 If you, for example, convert a high-quality 256K MP3 to Hi-SP (256K ATRAC3Plus) - you probably won't notice much, if any difference. But the only reasons that I think you'd want to do that (as opposed to just getting an MP3 player) is because you either like the concept of using very cheap removeable media, (as opposed to say, an SD card) - or you also use your MD for other things (for example, I record the audio from movies and TV shows to MD).yes,I like the concept of cheap removeable media with large storage. Those kinds of flash memory type mp3 player also cost so much. This is better to buy a player with removeable media so I can expand the storage. For the Hdd player, I think the size is too larger. I worry that the durability of the hd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 hmm.... go with the MD trust me ...that's the place your money should go..uhh...one more thing... altho mds are durable...they're subject to a special type of wear and tear uhh say after 1 year everything seems to go wrong :grin: but no matter what you do, buy WARRANTY.. have fun :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 yes,I like the concept of cheap removeable media with large storage.Yes, Hi-MD has you covered there. There's nothing else around with 1GB of removable media that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Those kinds of flash memory type mp3 player also cost so much.Flash memory players are not overly expensive unless you get into the high-capacity range. I've never recommended flash-based players before unless you either are prone to dropping your unit or it is for a child's use and would be subjected to above-average stress and impact. This is better to buy a player with removeable media so I can expand the storage.True. Hi-MD's capacity is limited only by the number of MDs you purchase. But how many of those would you really carry around with you? When I go out with my MD player, I usually take one or two discs tops. For the Hdd player, I think the size is too larger. I worry that the durability of the hd.The iPod Mini and the Creative Nomad Muvo2 are quite small (the Muvo2 actually almost the same dimensions and general shape as most subcompact MD units). The HDDs in these devides are designed to withstand impact, but yes they can suffer head crashes. MD units can also suffer optical pick-up block faults, in which case either unit would require service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 conclusion: i suggest you go with the md but based on how aggressive you're gonna be with it because look at me for instance i skate and i crash with my md units many times and there's times when i'd crash and the disc and battery fly all over the place... you could imagine how that would impact a hdd player right? i've never had a hdd based mp3 player but i'm gonna try it out this year with the 4gen ipod i'll do my best to guard it but if it breaks then i know from experience..... remember not matter what you do buy... get atleast 2 years warranty with it PLEASE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souls Posted August 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Thanks for your suggestion I will buy Hi-md. I live in Hong Kong. Many people only know flash memory type mp3 player or i-pod ,no one will concern on the Hi-MD information. So, if you use MD player, many people will feel that you are a old fashioned guy. But Hi-MD still not avaliable in Hong Kong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazeybt1 Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 hmm...... that's strange.. i thought hong kong would have that type a stuff ages back..any who you're welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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