ROuster Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I tried to delete some songs from my minidisc... I got Sony´s MZ-N510 ... and The machine says something like TrPROT ... I guess that means track protection? Is there any way that I can get the protection off or is the disc completely ruined. I woulld like to clean the whole disk. I transferred those songs from computer with SonicStage program. Also when I try to erase the songs with sonicstage it gives me somekind of error message. Does anyone know anything abouut my prob? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Welcome, Rouster. Unfortunately, the only way you can delete tracks on a NetMD unit such as this is through Sonicstage. If you're having problems with Sonicstage, I suggest you uninstall it via the directions here: http://forums.minidisc.org/viewtopic.php?t=4171 [make sure you follow the uninstall directions to the tee.] ..and install a fresh copy of Sonicstage 2.1 from connect.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebe Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 I have a MZ-R500 thats meen i record music on MD's only with direct connection in real play time recording. Today when i tryed to erase some old disk's i received " TrPROT " message . this is crazy becouse the disk's are recorded be me and i dont know what kind of protection is this . The only thing i found about this is "TrPROT - track protected. you cannot edit a track checked out from a computer." but i dont have any computer link with this MD . sry for my poor english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 I have a MZ-R500 thats meen i record music on MD's only with direct connection in real play time recording. Today when i tryed to erase some old disk's i received " TrPROT " message . this is crazy becouse the disk's are recorded be me and i dont know what kind of protection is this . The only thing i found about this is "TrPROT - track protected. you cannot edit a track checked out from a computer." but i dont have any computer link with this MD . sry for my poor english←If you have a bookshelf MD unit or another unit you can usually erase the whole disk .Some of the software wasn't obviously designed for REAL USERS. I doubt if you'd locked up 5 or 6 people in a room for a week and gave them the brief to design the most rediculous piece of software ever I'll bet they would never have come up with anything as stupid as SS .TR protecting YOUR OWN discs is just totally absurd.Cheers-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebe Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 what is SS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamaxDATminidisc Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 what is SS ?←SS is SonicStage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 yes, no one really understands why Sony made it impossible to erase a track from the PC...well ok I guess I do, they didnt want you to erase a purchased Connect.com track before you transferred the rights to the track back to the PC again... doesnt apply to our own rips tracks though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 ebe has an MZ-R500, which doesn't connect to a computer and doesn't use SonicStage. It might be a simple problem: the write-protect tab on the minidisc might have gotten slid into the Protect position. Check and see that it's closed, not open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 good call, you shouldnt be getting that error for any other reason that the write-protect tab if you have a pre-netMD unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDX-400 Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 The TrProt error is an interesting and a sometimes strange one. I think the original reason for it being there was the whole check-in check-out business that the original NetMD units and SS 1.0 were limited to and the whole SDMI nonsense.Also interesting is how pre-NetMD units handle this. Track protecting seems to be a what used to be a "reserved" function of the MD standard/format. Some non-NetMD devices ignore any TrPROT flags the disc has and can manipulate the tracks regardless of whatever they come up as.However there are exceptions... I recall that the R900 had this "problem" as well--somewhat like Sony planned it some time ahead of its actual use. I think the R90 (which was pre-MDLP even) also had this "feature". Units like the R900 will give the TrPROT error on tracks made via NetMD, despite the fact that they are not NetMD devices.However discs that were not recorded via NetMD should never really have the TrProt flag set on ANY track. Furthermore the unit *should* return a "Protected" error instead of "TrPROT" if trying to edit a disc where the physical write-protect tab is open. To the person experiencing the error on the R500: If you did not make the tracks via NetMD (on another unit) and have made sure the write protect tab is off (closed) and the unit is still giving the error, I can only guess that there is something wrong with the unit or disc--you'll have to try it on another unit to be sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberman Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) [edit] Forget it. It seems to work now - apparently it´s because some of the tracks were recorded using a different recorder. Those I recorded, I apparently can delete.I leave the post as is, but disregard it. [/edit](Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but the thread seems to fit)I´ve got a problem with my MZ-R900 - whenever I try to erase a track, I get TR PROTECT - even though the track was recorded a minute ago, using the optical cable and the optical output of my DVD-Player, playing a (original) CD.I have yet to read the manual entirely, but searches through it, or the web, didn´t find anything useful. Even here I didn´t find much I could use.These tracks obviously are protected - but why? And how can I erase them?Is it possible that it´s merely a disc-failure? I´ve checked the write-protect tab, but it´s fine - I could record as long as there was empty space.Should I discard the disc as write-only, or is there a simple solution(i.e. not buying additional hardware)?BTW, the disc wasn´t new or empty - some tracks have been written on it, by using a non-portable(bookshelf?) unit.Can this be the reason? Edited August 11, 2005 by Cyberman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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