Tarcka Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi! I'm so confused with all these minidiscs, hi-mds etc. So, I'm searching a recorder, which should cost 300€ (~350 USD) maximum. So, it really could be cheaper. I would be using it mainly as a recorder, but also to listen music. What I need is: - line-in - mic-in (not absolutely necessary, but would be usefull) - good sound quality - easy file transfers (i.e. able to create wave-file from recordings digitally) Also, what are the md limitations? About moving recordings to computer, am I able to create wave file (with digital transfer, NOT analog). And what's with the copyrights, is there some limitations? Uploading...? Just what I've heard is there's some problems with some copyright issues. Is those issues only with sony-machines of with others too (sharp...)? So, that's what I need. Would be really cool, if there was line-out also. Built quality, buttons, battery life, size etc. are important too, but not as important as those things I listed. So, I guess hi-mds are out of my league (can't afford). Also, is it vice to buy regular md now when hi-mds are coming? So, is there a md with line-in, mic-in, line-out and good-md-computer-transfers with price under 300 euros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotic Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 don't think this thread belong in Hi-MD forum, more like belong in Find your mini-disc forum.. Hi! What I need is: - line-in - mic-in (not absolutely necessary, but would be usefull) - good sound quality - easy file transfers (i.e. able to create wave-file from recordings digitally) Also, what are the md limitations? About moving recordings to computer, am I able to create wave file (with digital transfer, NOT analog). And what's with the copyrights, is there some limitations? Uploading...? Just what I've heard is there's some problems with some copyright issues. Is those issues only with sony-machines of with others too (sharp...)? So, that's what I need. Would be really cool, if there was line-out also. Built quality, buttons, battery life, size etc. are important too, but not as important as those things I listed. So, I guess hi-mds are out of my league (can't afford). Also, is it vice to buy regular md now when hi-mds are coming? So, is there a md with line-in, mic-in, line-out and good-md-computer-transfers with price under 300 euros?anyhow, sorry to inform you, atm, no MD is allow you to upload 'digitally'. However, Hi-MD allows you to play back your recordings thru USB, then use third party software like Total Recorder/Audacity (like many have suggested) into wave file, then burn onto CD. and if you are interest in either MD/NetMD, good luck, I don't think those units can play back thru USB, (correct me if I am wrong). so Hi-MD is your only choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutant1345 Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 correction the himd models do alow digital upload to pc but they dont allow you to do anything with the file except burn it to more mds or an atrac cd and thats not exactly what most intend on doing (and no regular mds do not allow playback on pc speakers...) however this is not going to be the case forever sont has announced the wave converter to be comming out rather soon, i dont personely know when. so after that you can do what you please with the file but you will have to be patient for that to happen if you do choose to get a hi md player/recorder then i would suggest the mz800 or 900 depending on matereal that you want it made of, the 900 has a plastic backing and i believe the 800 is a plastic model its your choice but both have the specs you need i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananatree Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 The recorder even as low as the nh700 has a microphone-in I belive. Hi-MD will have the best sound quality out there. You can upload any recording you have made in analog, and you should be able to edit it once the converter comes out that Mutant mentioned. The HiMD models should soung better as well because they A: Can record in PCM and B: Some implement a digital amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[StrangeByte] Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi there. I think Hi-MD is your choice if you need digital uploading to pc. There are 2 possibilities: hi-speed upload to encrypted and (currently) unusable OMG-files using SonicStage (read more about this crappy software in other threads) or realtime upload (also using usb) by recording the tracks using 3rd party software (for example TotalRecorder) while playing them back over SonicStage. This has no analog step but you have to add trackmarks yourself (TotalRecorder records to one single .wav-file) Another solution would be using a NetMD Home-deck with digital out using digital in on your pc for recording (in fact a very old solution). This is not possible for portable devices. I would, however, really recomend you to get a HiMD unit. HiMD units featuring a mic-in are the NH1, NH900, NHF800 and NH700 (for the portable ones) :smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotic Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 hahaha, you guys had it all wrong. Since the thread starter stating, Hi-MD is out of his league. why you people even bother recommending Hi-MD units?!?! I only stated Hi-MD are his only choices..but I didn't recommended anything. I was gonna suggest him look elsewhere after reading his post. @Mutant I know Hi-MD can upload 'digitally' only in atrac/atrac3+ codecs, & PCM, but remember Tarcka wants -- easy file transfers (i.e. able to create wave-file from recordings digitally) if he wants to accomplish that TODAY/now/at this moment in time, like uploading to PC and converting to wave file as he uploads. is do able without going thru third party software?!?! you and I both know it's do able with Total Recorder.. but then, this is not 'easy file transfer' and it's not what he wants. Thus, I still stand by my statment, there is no MD (includes Hi-MD) can upload 'digitally'. <- I mean to create wave file as it uploads to PC digitally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 For all of your purposes, a HDD based recorder would likely be the way to go. I do not know of any HDRs to suggest, but I do know to steer you away from iRiver... the line-in is not very clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Some important points: * MD and HiMD are currently the least-expensive and most reliable formats for portable digital recording [most reliable for uploading is another matter] * the price difference between entry-level MD and HiMD models with mic and line inputs is very small, and since HiMD can record to MDs natively [if you need such compatibility for another player, home deck, or car deck for example] there is virtually no reason to overlook HiMD * virtually no reason - unless you're looking for a model that is more durable or has the slightly different feature set/implementation that, say, the Sharp MD recorders offer [see http://www.minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html] * fully-digital uploads are possible in the clear. See the procedure outlined here. There is no one-step process for this, and even when the wave converter is released, it still won't be a one-step process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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