Help with SonicStage and Chinese Characters

[rickymwong]

You are most welcome. A member by the name of pata2001 provided the registry info.

Happy MD!

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HI,

I follow the instruction and now my SoniStage 3.2 running under Applocale can display Chinese title, but when I do the transfer to my MZ-RH10, it changes to strange symbols and some look like Japanese Kanji character.

I have also followed your instruction to change my US region MD to Asian Pacific version, if I change my language to Chinese, all menu will be shown in Chinese, but the song title is still the same.

What did I do wrong? Greatly appreciate your help. Thanks!

Ricky

[Ishiyoshi]

HI,

I follow the instruction and now my SoniStage 3.2 running under Applocale can display Chinese title, but when I do the transfer to my MZ-RH10,  it changes to strange symbols and some look like Japanese Kanji character.

I have also followed your instruction to change my US region MD to Asian Pacific version, if I change my language to Chinese, all menu will be shown in Chinese, but the song title is still the same.

What did I do wrong?  Greatly appreciate your help.  Thanks!

Ricky

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Welcome to MDCF!

Can you title in Chinese language text at all? Please note that Chinese language texts are supported as long as it's in the kanji library. Otherwise, you will see some Chinese texts as "?"

In addition, ensure that you run SonicStage 3.2 with AppLocale in Japanese. If you follow the registry edit as outlined, you will get a majority of Chinese language texts.

[cruidi]

ok i got a problem here, which i think most of the chinese MD fans are having. anyway, i just installed Sonic Stage 3.3 [all reigon] (was using 2.3). and now i got all the chinese character in ???. is there any solution for me? or it is just my fate to use only version 2.3 by the way, my friend gave me this Hi-MD MZ-NHF800 in Malaysia and i am not sure what region version it is as it can never display chinese name on either my remote control nor the MD LCD Screen, is there any way to determine which region my Hi-Md is from and how to make my Sonic Stage to support Chinese character....and if possible for my Hi-MD as well.Thanks alot for your kind help.

[Ishiyoshi]

ok i got a problem here, which i think most of the chinese MD fans are having. anyway, i just installed Sonic Stage 3.3 [all reigon] (was using 2.3). and now i got all the chinese character in ???. is there any solution for me? or it is just my fate to use only version 2.3 by the way, my friend gave me this Hi-MD MZ-NHF800 in Malaysia and i am not sure what region version it is as it can never display chinese name on either my remote control nor the MD LCD Screen, is there any way to determine which region my Hi-Md is from and how to make my Sonic Stage to support Chinese character....and if possible for my Hi-MD as well.Thanks alot for your kind help.

First of all, you will need to edit SonicStage 3.3's registry entry to enable Japanese/Chinese characters display/support. Please follow the instruction I have outlined in this thread.

Second, you will need to change the destination codes of your unit to reflect its Chinese model. The instructions to enter service mode and edit destination codes can be found in the MZ-NHF800's service manual, pg. 19. --> download it from the "Downloads" archive. But since you received this unit in Malaysia, it is likely your unit is of a Tourist model, which may support Chinese charaters. To be sure, couple the unit with one of the remotes mentioned below.

I believe the main unit's LCD screen does not support Japanese/Chinese characters. But I am pretty sure remotes such as the RM-MC35ELK, RM-MC40ELK and RM-MC55ELK will perform to your needs - that is Chinese characters support. Please read MDCF's Sony LCD Remotes Guide

Report back if you need further assistance. Good luck.

[cruidi]

--> Then locate the entry called "AreaCode" with a value of 2 for US version.

--> Change it to 40000 hexadecimal. That's the value on the Japanese install of SonicStage.

(*If you wish to title and display music tracks in Traditional/Simplified Chinese, change it to 800000 hexadecimal.

hi thanks for your quick reply

i go to the registry, i can't even find any value called "AreaCode" what i found inside are only (Default), DLLName, Name and Version. The Version is 4.3.00.08302

by the way i had downloaded the service manual and it seems needing a file called "TestMode_Enter_For_900_800_700_600_600D_Ver****.exe"

i don't have it. where can i download it?

oh yea by the way, i am using Window XP SP2, and if i switch the region to China(PRC), Sonic Stage 3.3 works perfectly displaying every single chinese character, but if i change back to English (US), English (UK) or any other language, then the Chinese Character in Sonic Stage 3.3 become "????" again. The reason i don't want to change to China(PRC) is because most of the softwares in my PC will become chinese based. which i don't really like. please assist.thanks

[Richard]

The full registry key is

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\SonyCorporation\OpenMG\PD\{D887F25F-02A3-44D7-841F-583DD5231B5F}

In here you should see area code.

To enter the test mode on an NHF-800 see this thread.

Edited November 17, 2005 by richyhu

[cruidi]

hi, thanks for ur fast reply, but i really cannot find the area code for that, just to prove, i attached an image, please check

[Richard]

hi, thanks for ur fast reply, but i really cannot find the area code for that, just to prove, i attached an image, please check

If I understood correctly you had the Chinese version 2.3 then upgraded this to 3.3 - which version?

Can you manually create a DWORD value key in there and set it to 800000. If you do this then run SS under APPLocale for Traditional Chinese do the tracks display correctly?

Edited November 17, 2005 by richyhu

[Ishiyoshi]

i go to the registry, i can't even find any value called "AreaCode" what i found inside are only (Default), DLLName, Name and Version. The Version is 4.3.00.08302

I've created the registry entry for you --> download and apply it. [attachmentid=1125]

by the way i had downloaded the service manual and it seems needing a file called "TestMode_Enter_For_900_800_700_600_600D_Ver****.exe"

i don't have it. where can i download it?

I don't think that is needed. Please read the MZ-NHF800's service manual; specifically page 19 for detailed instructions.

oh yea by the way, i am using Window XP SP2, and if i switch the region to China(PRC), Sonic Stage 3.3 works perfectly displaying every single chinese character, but if i change back to English (US), English (UK) or any other language, then the Chinese Character in Sonic Stage 3.3 become "????" again. The reason i don't want to change to China(PRC) is because most of the softwares in my PC will become chinese based. which i don't really like. please assist.thanks

Please read this guide I have created once more. You need to download and install Microsoft AppLocale - and run SonicStage 3.3 with Microsoft AppLocale Utility in addition to registry edit.

SonicStage_CHN.zip

[cruidi]

ok i am reinstalling the software, having everything started again (include deletion of registry) i will try it out. beside that, i can't download AppLocale, cause i can't get my window XP validate, can someone post it here so i can download? Thanks. Will get back to you guys when i am done, btw, i can go in the service manual already. it doesn't seems helping. my md still cnanot display chinese. probably it doesn't come with chinese firmware (not chinese version) it was stated an US version. i can't even change the menu into chinese (can't even find a place to change menu language, or i don't know where perharps?)

thanks for all of your generous help esp Ishiyoshi

[Ishiyoshi]

ok i am reinstalling the software, having everything started again (include deletion of registry) i will try it out.

You will need to edit the registry regardless of a reinstall. Do apply the registry edit patch I have created for you or follow the registry edit guide I have prepared to enable proper Chinese characters display/titling.

beside that, i can't download AppLocale, cause i can't get my window XP validate, can someone post it here so i can download?

Drop me a pm with your email. I will see what I can do.

btw, i can go in the service manual already. it doesn't seems helping. my md still cnanot display chinese. probably it doesn't come with chinese firmware (not chinese version) it was stated an US version. i can't even change the menu into chinese (can't even find a place to change menu language, or i don't know where perharps?)

I'm sorry, I don't have the MZ-NHF800 to confirm the procedure outlined in the link provided by Richard above and page 19 of the service manual. Nonetheless, how far were you able to follow the instructions? Are you able to access "Test Mode" change the destination codes from 50 (US version) to 34?

[cruidi]

You will need to edit the registry regardless of a reinstall. Do apply the registry edit patch I have created for you or follow the registry edit guide I have prepared to enable proper Chinese characters display/titling.

Drop me a pm with your email. I will see what I can do.

I'm sorry, I don't have the MZ-NHF800 to confirm the procedure outlined in the link provided by Richard above and page 19 of the service manual. Nonetheless, how far were you able to follow the instructions? Are you able to access "Test Mode" change the destination codes from 50 (US version) to 34?

process 1 & 3 fully done.....................

process 2 in process....U got PMed

[Ishiyoshi]

process 1 & 3 fully done.....................

process 2 in process....U got PMed

Remember, you will still need a remote that supports Japanese/Chinese characters - I did mentioned this in post #44 of this thread.

[cruidi]

Allright guys, finally i made it! now sonic stage 3.3 is working with chinese. there is only 1 thing that it still need the help with APPLOC, it cannot run like last time (Ver 2.3) which can support chinese automatically. anyway, thanks everyone for your great help again.

[Ishiyoshi]

Allright guys, finally i made it! now sonic stage 3.3 is working with chinese. there is only 1 thing that it still need the help with APPLOC, it cannot run like last time (Ver 2.3) which can support chinese automatically. anyway, thanks everyone for your great help again.

I believe you will need to have WinXP MUI module installed for that.

[rickymwong]

I believe you will need to have WinXP MUI module installed for that.

Hi Ishiyoshi,

You are great!

thanks for your advise, I followed your procedure, and it can display most of the Chinese characters that is available in Japanese Kanji character in both SoniStage 3.3 and my MZR-H10 MD.

Is there anyway I can display the full chinese character set in sonicStage and also the MD?

I wonder how people in China or Hong Kong use their MD if it can only support a subset of Chinese characters. thanks for your advise again.

Ricky

[Ishiyoshi]

Hi Ishiyoshi,

You are great!

thanks for your advise, I followed your procedure, and it can display most of the Chinese characters that is available in Japanese Kanji character in both SoniStage 3.3 and my MZR-H10 MD.

Is there anyway I can display the full chinese character set in sonicStage and also the MD?

I wonder how people in China or Hong Kong use their MD if it can only support a subset of Chinese characters. thanks for your advise again.

Ricky

We have discussed this issue in various thread within the "Software" section of the forum. To make things easy for you, please review the following post from this thread. Enjoy.

To make it simple for others in the future, I outline the steps here:

0. When I say "Chinese", I mean the Chinese characters in GB2312 or Big5 encodings. They are different from Kanji characters that use Shift-JIS encoding. (Skip this if you don't know what I am saying )

1. Make sure your RH10 unit can display Chinese menus. You may try the service mode trick if it doesn't.

2. Install SS3.3 on your PC (I used US version from connect.com, I GUESS other versions should work as well but didn't verify)

3. Follow Ishiyoshi's instruction to change the Windows registry, but use 800000 as the AreaCode value for Chinese (This works for both Simplified and Traditional Chinese).

4. If you have an WinXP machine, use AppLocale to invoke SS3.3 using Simplified or Traditional Chinese language. If you are using Win2K machine, change the system language settings to Simplified (or Traditional, but I didn't verify) Chinese like I did in post#12 in this thread and then invoke SS3.3 as usual.

You should be able to see/edit titles in Chinese inside SS3.3, as well as see the Chinese titles on RH10 unit after transfer the songs. It really shouldn't be this complicated; shame on Sony for making such a crappy software!

I also wanted to see Chinese titles on my MC35ELK remote, but after some Google searching, it seems no at all possible because MC35ELK model does not have built-in Chinese fonts (that's right, the remote has to build in all fonts that it can show). I will need either MC40ELK, or MC55ELK for that.

[Richard]

We have discussed this issue in various thread within the "Software" section of the forum. To make things easy for you, please review the following post from this thread. Enjoy.

Crudi - from what I understood your 2.3 was a "native" Chinese version and you upgraded to a US version hence the characters were no longer displayed correctly in SS.

If this is the case you will always need to run using Applocale to view them properly. Anyway glad you and Ishii sorted it and things are now ok.

[cruidi]

what do u mean "Native" chinese version, is there any possible that i can get a similiar one for 3.3? My MD Seems cannot support chinese at all. now (after i change the coding into 34, according to the service manual, all the chinese word displayed as "........" instead of those wired characther/symbol. there is no way to upgrade the firm ware rite? to enable the chinese function for the MD. anyway thanks for all the help given.

[Ishiyoshi]

what do u mean "Native" chinese version, is there any possible that i can get a similiar one for 3.3? My MD Seems cannot support chinese at all. now (after i change the coding into 34, according to the service manual, all the chinese word displayed as "........" instead of those wired characther/symbol. there is no way to upgrade the firm ware rite? to enable the chinese function for the MD. anyway thanks for all the help given.

Cruidi,

Which remote are you using with your MZ-NHF800? Remember the tuner remote that comes bundled with the unit does not support Japanese/Chinese characters display. In addition, the LCD panel of the unit itself only supports Roman characters. Look for a RM-MC40ELK or RM-MC55ELK remote for full traditional Chinese text display.

[Guest bugnot]

Ok, I’ve found a simple way.

Make sure your player firmware is ver 2.0.

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-downl...&mdl=NWE507

And use MP3FM.

http://support.sony-europe.com/DNA/downloa...F&f=MP3FM20

Run CopyTools.exe with admin privilleges, and a new dir MP3FM will be created on your Mp3 player.

C:\Program Files\Sony\MP3 File Manager\CopyTools.exe

Drag and drop with full language support.