elementcz Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I'm going to buy MZ-NH1 but I'd like to know if it is able to record on old MD media (74 and 80) so I can use this media in my other equipment (NetMD and MDLP decks). On minidisc.org there is that it is possible to record only when older media is reformated, but regarding to local seller I need to reformat it only if I want to record with new HiMD format. Could someone explain it to me, or direct me to some official source to confirm this ? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianobrien Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 yep, you can reformat the standard disk to increase the capacity but then this disc will only play on HI MD devices. If you want your discs to play on net md and mdlp units you can use a regular disc, just be sure not to format the disc in SonicStage before you transfer tracks to it. I personally do not reformat discs as I have spent years putting a minidisc device in important places - car bedroom etc and I do not want to start again (yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elementcz Posted December 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I'm going to buy it right now !!! :smile: I have some "older" MDLP and NetMD equipment too so this was only thing that was holding me back from buying new HiMD device. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latexxx Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 You can select the format even by using SS. There is a drop-down menu which allows you to do the format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksandbergfl Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 If you want your discs to play on net md and mdlp units you can use a regular disc' date=' just be sure not to format the disc in SonicStage before you transfer tracks to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latexxx Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 The players record every form of atrac (atrac, atrac3 and atrac3plus). SS allows you to put atrac3 (compatible with hi-md/net-md/md-lp equipment), atrac (actually upsampled atrac3 which sounds pretty bad but works with all md players) and atrac3plus (work with himd) onto a disc. If you want real atrac, not upsampled, you record it using the inputs on your player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksandbergfl Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 The players record every form of atrac (atrac, atrac3 and atrac3plus). .no, that's not my question. I know about the different ATRAC flavors. The post to which I replied implied that I could take an old minidisc from a MDLP unit (pre-NetMD), put it in a HiMD unit and record to it with SonicStage. Is this true? I have no old minidiscs (I have only owned a minidisc player for a year, I started with a NetMD NZ-510) so I have no experience with them. If not with SonicStage... can you put on old MDLP disc in a HiMD recorder, and record to it (in 132K or 66K ATRAC, of course) using the audio/optical ins? Or do you have to reformat the disc to NetMD first? NetMD discs will play on older minidisc players, right? I was under the impression that you can only play old minidiscs in a HiMD unit... not record too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 You can record to a standard MD from a Hi-MD in Atrac3 (the older version of MD or MDLP, whatver you want to call it: SP, LP2 and LP4) or you can reformat the standard MD to Hi-MD format and record in Hi-MD Atrac3+ (PCM, Hi-SP, Hi-LP and the Low 48 Hi-LP). You get the best of both if you ask me. I think a simple check of the minidisc.org FAQ would help you: http://www.minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latexxx Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 The post to which I replied implied that I could take an old minidisc from a MDLP unit (pre-NetMD), put it in a HiMD unit and record to it with SonicStage. Is this true? I have no old minidiscs (I have only owned a minidisc player for a year, I started with a NetMD NZ-510) so I have no experience with them. You can record old disc in both netmd (mdlp) and hi-md mode. If you use the net-md mode, your disc will be playable on all md-lp devices and if you record in sp mode, your disc will play in any md player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etotheix Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 There are some tables starting on page 94 of the NH1 manual that detail exactly when you can record in what codecs. It's different depending on your how your disk is formatted and on whether you're recording straight to MD or are using SonicStage. http://www.minidisc.org/manuals/sony/Sony_...tion_manual.pdf (Anyone notice that the max times for ATRAC3 132kbps and 105kbps are listed as being the same? Also the NH900 manual has the same chart but doesn't list the SP rate. Are these misprints?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 LP2 @ 132k and 105k have the same playing time on standard MDs, as the number of sectors per minute is the same. In Hi-MD mode, the data is differently organized, so that 105k gives about one hour more playing time on a standard disc compared to 132k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phish Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 mrsoul, You can record to a standard MD from a Hi-MD in Atrac3 (the older version of MD or MDLP, whatver you want to call it: SP, LP2 and LP4)According to minidisc.org HiMD faq, http://www.minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html#_q93, HiMD doesn't support SP recording. But you say it does. What is ture? Another question is HiMD recorder can transfer (aka download) form PC in SP mode? It doesn't convert LP and then record as SP? NetMD can download SP from PC, but internally PC converts once to LP and then re-convert to SP to minidisc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latexxx Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 When you insert an old md (non hi-md) into your unit, you can choose whether you like to use it in netmd mode or in himd mode. If you set it to netmd mode, you can record from analog and digital sources and retain the compatibility with old units. If you use it in himd mode, you can upload old lp2 from your pc but the disc is only playable on himd units. SP recording can only be achieved by using the unit in netmd mode and then recording from analog/digital souces or you can upload LP content from pc and the unit converts it to SP. On the other hand Hi-SP content can be transferred as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeroxide Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 mrsoul, HiMD doesn't support SP recording. But you say it does. What is ture? Read part 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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