Jake Arber Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 My problem with buying my next mnidisc, )i have an old model) is that based on what i can find out online the differences between the MZNH1, NH800 and MH-900 are minimal. Yet the NH1 costs about 200 more then the 800. What exacly are the differences that make buying a higher priced version better? I would like to use it primarrily to record via a michrophone. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1980 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 If you are in Europe then the NH1 is the only choice (not volume capped).Apart from that, NH1 is made in Japan, the others not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Arber Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 First off i am in the United States. I just looked and the model i have now (that died in impressive fasion) is the MZ-R37. I also managed to find out a little more showing that the 800 is probably not good enough for me (lacking line out and maybe the lack of amp is bad as well). So now the question is really why the NZ-H1 is 50$+ better then the 900. Is there any diference in sound quality? I could care less about the fancy chargin stand and the stronger build is not particurally important as i take good care of my equitment. Also i could care less about a fancier remote. I want to make the highest possible quality recording via microphone (im doing a sound documentary). Therefore i am trying to capture sounds such as the striking of a match or the chiming of a bell. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daremo Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 (edited) I've only had my NH1 for 48 hours, but I really like it so far. It's so much faster than my poor little NetMD unit and HiSP mode kicks butt. Never held the other two, but I choose the NH1 because it's the Japanese model. My first MD was an R91 from Japan. After the jogdail wore out I bought a MZ-N505 to keep me going for awhile. I did'nt like how big and plasticy it was... Those other two models kinda remind me of the N505... If I were you I would seek some online reviews. Edited January 7, 2005 by daremo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaml1ne Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 First off i am in the United States. I just looked and the model i have now (that died in impressive fasion) is the MZ-R37. I also managed to find out a little more showing that the 800 is probably not good enough for me (lacking line out and maybe the lack of amp is bad as well). So now the question is really why the NZ-H1 is 50$+ better then the 900. Is there any diference in sound quality? I could care less about the fancy chargin stand and the stronger build is not particurally important as i take good care of my equitment. Also i could care less about a fancier remote. I want to make the highest possible quality recording via microphone (im doing a sound documentary). Therefore i am trying to capture sounds such as the striking of a match or the chiming of a bell. Thanks again.←Better remote (fancier yes, still better than the 900), smaller unit overall, all magnesium. Otherwise the guts are largely the same. The 900 has better power options with the external AA battery pack. But I've also heard here that the 900 is quirky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Having used pretty much all of the HiMD units in one form another, here are my recommendation in order:1) Best bang for buck I'd say NH900. Best battery life of the bunch, HD Digital Amp, almost all of the features of NH1, ability to use USB while in dock, etc. 2) Slickest unit is NH1 by far. If you carry tons of stuff with you, that extra $100 you invest will be worth it. NH1 sat in my pocket the last couple of hours, and if it weren't for the remote clipped on conspicously on my shirt, no one would be the wiser. NH900 feels like a fat brick in comparison. NH800? No comparison.3) NH800F is a good choice, is the only model with a Tuner, comes in handy in emergencies or when you're bored. It is also cheaper vs. NH1 by $150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 But I've also heard here that the 900 is quirky.←How so?..and yes, there is no recording difference between the NH1 and NH900, like most have said the NH900 is probably the best unit to get in this scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaml1ne Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 How so?..and yes, there is no recording difference between the NH1 and NH900, like most have said the NH900 is probably the best unit to get in this scenario.←Recording issues, track markshttp://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=7226Issue saving after recording.http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=7101What sucks is we bought 5 nh900's at work for our field producers to backup conference presenters. These threads popped up about a week after we received them, so I've been real nervous about it. So far we haven't had any issues, but we've only done two conferences with them. Otherwise the 900 is better for portable recording because of the battery situation, but hints of issues bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 basically you will not be dissapointed no matter which one you get. The 800 is a middle of the road unit with good features, the 900 is a high end with great battery times and the NH1 just looks great (plus it has everything the other 2 have)All comes down to what vs what you want to spend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Arber Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thanks alot to all of you for the information. I think the most important thing was that the 900 has the same guts with longer battery life. Has anyone had any issues with durability for the 900? im not sure what my R37 was made of but it was some type of metal and plastic. and is the batter pack for the 900 a screw on? Anyways thanks alot, these are great forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thanks alot to all of you for the information. I think the most important thing was that the 900 has the same guts with longer battery life. Has anyone had any issues with durability for the 900? im not sure what my R37 was made of but it was some type of metal and plastic. and is the batter pack for the 900 a screw on? Anyways thanks alot, these are great forums.←i think MD units as a whole have been known for their incredible durability (both disc and player wise) On this forum alone you will find numerous posts about people dropping their precious units only to have nothing happen at all! So really no worries there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaml1ne Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thanks alot to all of you for the information. I think the most important thing was that the 900 has the same guts with longer battery life. Has anyone had any issues with durability for the 900? im not sure what my R37 was made of but it was some type of metal and plastic. and is the batter pack for the 900 a screw on? Anyways thanks alot, these are great forums.←In general they're pretty damn durable, but I'm sure you can find ways to break one. Like Rombusters said people have had some nasty spills with their units and never had issues. I've personally thrown minidiscs (the media, not the player) hard against the wall only to have the little metal cover piece pop off. Pop it back on, put it in the player and it plays every time. Good demonstration to the non-believer The 900 is half metal half plastic I think. The front face is definitely magnesium. The add-on battery pack screws onto the bottom of the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 needless to say you should have a problem period. Unless you like dropped it in acid or something (hmmm seems like we have a new test for the HiMD! lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaml1ne Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 needless to say you should have a problem period. Unless you like dropped it in acid or something (hmmm seems like we have a new test for the HiMD! lol)←1. 2. 3. Not it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daremo Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 The screw on battery is something the N1 is missing. It has a nice internal Lithium Ion battery, but you have no other option. I'm probably going to buy a spare, but they are pretty expensive. I think they are around $50.00 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Then again as long as you play on being close to an outlet every few days you shouldnt have a problem with battery life at all. Especially with the 900 but that goes for all MD units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 The screw on battery is something the N1 is missing. It has a nice internal Lithium Ion battery, but you have no other option. I'm probably going to buy a spare, but they are pretty expensive. I think they are around $50.00 right now.←Not recommended unless you're going to be using those two batteries on a very regular basis. LiIons have a notoriously short shelf life (about 2-3 years) vs. NiMHs or Alkalines. I'd pass on it until the you're nearing the end of the charge cycle, probably within the next year and a half or two, assuming 300 odd charge cycle.If battery will be of concern to you, stick with NH900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 NiMH don't have good life either in reality "We observe good performance at first but past 300-cycles, the readings starts to deteriorate rapidly. One can observe the swift increase in internal resistance and self-discharge after cycle count 700" batteryuniversity.comthey're just much cheaper to replace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftech Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 (edited) In terms of durability, the MZ-NH900 isn't built nearly as well as the MZ-R37. I own both and the quality of construction is like night and day. I have opened both (a quirk of mine and maybe not a great idea under the warranty terms) and the difference is really obvious. Some of the bearing points and plastic internal parts don't look like they will last very long.John Edited January 9, 2005 by craftech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 In terms of durability, the MZ-NH900 isn't built nearly as well as the MZ-R37. I own both and the quality of construction is like night and day. I have opened both (a quirk of mine and maybe not a great idea under the warranty terms) and the difference is really obvious. Some of the bearing points and plastic internal parts don't look like they will last very long.John←on which model are you refering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreno Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) Hm if u want something slim, and more resistant, take the NH1. As long as I know, it do not have an USB port in the player itself. If u want versatility (built in USB port and extra battery pack), take the NH900. I think this one is the best of both worlds.Looks like it has the very same recording capabilities of the NH1, and besides its plastic back (and metal face), it´s quite resistant too.The fact of being or not produced in Japan do not get toooo much importance these days. A company can make crap equipment, or good equipment anywhere. Take a look at Sharp - they make incredible machines in Malaysia.BTW, I´m looking forward for a Sharp HiMD unit !! I Hope them release it soon..See ya.. Edited January 14, 2005 by moreno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakko Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I thought long and hard about getting the NH1 over the 900. It came down to the battery configuration. I've used the AA battery compartment on my E55 a number of times. I didn't want a unit that didn't have that option. Also, I new I wanted at least the 900 because I loved the rechargeable battery of the E55. The 900 has the features I wanted, and the battery setup I was accustomed to.Also, I have had no problems with my 900 after several months of use. No quirks to report so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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