mikemo Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Can anyone explain the tremendous number of new, not refurbished, MZ-NH600D Hi-Md units for sale on ebay at very low prices. Most places sell these for about $180. They are going for anywhere between $80 and $100 (including "handling") on ebay. Half price? Are the 600's being discontinued and closed out?Just curious...ThanksMIkemoStill using an MZ-NE410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xispe Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 well, it's quite simple: everyone in here is happy with the outstanding features of Hi-MD, with the constant transcoding to ATRAC3, to not have rights over their own recorded material, so on and so on. So, people are giving away their recorders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiorario Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Heh.Or, more likely, people are realizing how stupid an idea was to buy a 600 and are switching either to a higher model (700 is decent enough, at least it has input other than USB) or to HD-based mp3 players.Whenever someone asks me what kind of mp3 player they should buy, I say "Go for the iPod if you don't need to record your own music."I still think the MD format is way cool, and as soon as a Hi-MD deck is out I'll buy one, but i also bought an iPod last week, for those times I am not out recording stuff. More practical, and it perfectly matches my iBook G4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Tires Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Although the above comments might reflect a few of the sellers, there is a more likely explanation. Many eBay Power Sellers look for good deals on wholesale products. Some wholesaler must've sold off their entire inventory of NH600D MD unitd and these folks are selling them off for minimal profit. This kind of thing always happens on eBay. That's why so many of these units are NIB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemo Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Well, I'm going to buy one. For $80 I don't think I can lose. I'd really like a higher end model but just can't justify the $350 price, particularly because I don't do my own recording.Thanks for the infomikemoAlthough the above comments might reflect a few of the sellers, there is a more likely explanation. Many eBay Power Sellers look for good deals on wholesale products. Some wholesaler must've sold off their entire inventory of NH600D MD unitd and these folks are selling them off for minimal profit. This kind of thing always happens on eBay. That's why so many of these units are NIB.← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane47 Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Well, I'm going to buy one. For $80 I don't think I can lose. I'd really like a higher end model but just can't justify the $350 price, particularly because I don't do my own recording.Thanks for the infomikemo←I was thinking the same thing. My 600 just came in the mail today....I wanted the 700 or 800 but with this price under 100 with shipping, its a crime not to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NRen2k5 Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Heh.Or, more likely, people are realizing how stupid an idea was to buy a 600 and are switching either to a higher model (700 is decent enough, at least it has input other than USB) or to HD-based mp3 players.Whenever someone asks me what kind of mp3 player they should buy, I say "Go for the iPod if you don't need to record your own music."I still think the MD format is way cool, and as soon as a Hi-MD deck is out I'll buy one, but i also bought an iPod last week, for those times I am not out recording stuff. More practical, and it perfectly matches my iBook G4 ←I've said it a thousand times before: The Creative Labs and iRiver MP3 players are better than the Ipod. NOBODY LISTENS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NRen2k5 Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 I was thinking the same thing. My 600 just came in the mail today....I wanted the 700 or 800 but with this price under 100 with shipping, its a crime not to buy it.←Sure... as a player or for storage... the 600 cannot record and SonicStage does not make good-quality encodings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confuchsia Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 I've said it a thousand times before: The Creative Labs and iRiver MP3 players are better than the Ipod. NOBODY LISTENS!!!←having experienced the creative zentouch, i would have to disagree. the touch pad is problematic (particularly compared to the ipod), the software is rudimentary (again compared to the elegance of itunes) and it is significantly more bulkier design wise... which is why i no longer have it. much as i am drawn to the sony hdmd, the overwhelmingly negative response to sonic stage coupled with the draconican drm, means that i have not made the same mistake twice. which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 I've said it a thousand times before: The Creative Labs and iRiver MP3 players are better than the Ipod. NOBODY LISTENS!!!←That's your opinion. "Better" is utterly subjective. One man's trash is another man's treasure.And personally, I think that the iPod/iPod Mini and the Rio Karma/Rio Carbon blow the pants off of the iRiver and Creative Labs units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqcolor Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 if you have owned this nh600d, you will find it is the cheapest version like ne410 and ne420d in netmd series, so it will fall to $50 and then stay there. For there is no line in/optical/mic and no ac socket. crapy built nad cheap design. Believe it or not, nh600d is the most profitable one of sony himd series.Can anyone explain the tremendous number of new, not refurbished, MZ-NH600D Hi-Md units for sale on ebay at very low prices. Most places sell these for about $180. They are going for anywhere between $80 and $100 (including "handling") on ebay. Half price? Are the 600's being discontinued and closed out?Just curious...ThanksMIkemoStill using an MZ-NE410← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMBUSTERS Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 the 600 is perfect for someone that wants a HiMD purely for listening to music on the gogreat battery playback timegood amount of songsplays back old MD discs as well (premastered and such)small as can be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb226 Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) the 600 is perfect for someone that wants a HiMD purely for listening to music on the gogreat battery playback timegood amount of songsplays back old MD discs as well (premastered and such)small as can be←I wholeheartedly agree with the above. I am just a regular Joe that wants to listen to music. I don't feel the need to have a remote with LCD, optical in, this that and the other thing. So I got the Sony MZ-NH600D off ebay for 80. Never been happier. I transcode MP3's to 132kbps LP2 and they sound very good. I just recently ordered a Sony RM-MZ4R remote off ebay for $15 shipped so that takes care of a remote. So I don't need a 300 dollar HiMD portable. Being that I have owned everything from a Sharp 722 (first portable MD), Net MD portable, then a Zen Nomad hard drive player, then an Ipod, then using my Treo 600 as an MP3 player (with 1gb SD card and Pocket Tunes), then a Tapwave Zodiac (with 1gb SD card and Pocket Tunes), I have gotten a wide perspective on all the kinds of units out there, and now I have FINALLY gone back to minidisc. Minidisc for me is a very underrated format. I had a ipod 2 times (2nd, 3rd generation), and the thing would never work consistently. MiniDisc just blows it away as far as battery life, and features. I never liked how MP3 players work (no editability, pause between tracks, terrible battery life, etc) out. And because hard drives are doomed to fail from the start, players like ipod are very unappealing (I had an ipod's hard drive just up and die on me spontaneously). Edited February 5, 2005 by arb226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_w Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 The 600 is excellent value for money. I'm very happy with mine. The European version has both optical, line in and USB inputs and works with the extras i already had from my MZ-N510 (like the basic remote, case and PSU) so no worries there. Just the usual Sonicstage complaints and the fact the euro ones only output 3mW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_THE_CROW Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 The 600 is excellent value for money. I'm very happy with mine. The European version has both optical, line in and USB inputs and works with the extras i already had from my MZ-N510 (like the basic remote, case and PSU) so no worries there. Just the usual Sonicstage complaints and the fact the euro ones only output 3mW ←i didnt know that my 600 has only 3mW... i bought it for 190 Euro... when i got it.... i got surprised badly.... even my old panasonic RQ-P266 portable audio cassette player has greater output volume.... by the way, the equalizer is permanently AVLSized.... no overclocking allowed... my RQ-P266 even now after 10 years of usage allows overclocking..... and it works perfectly.... and even sounds perfectly...... damn i wasted a lot of money with this 600... and there is even no MONO-Mode support.... even not for the old standard ATRAC format......i am really about to get one Iriver (EISA awards!) or another player with OGG playback.... but to tell you all the truth: MP3 is bullshit! Never ever use MP3! Converting MP3 into ATRAC is senseless! You better convert your Original Audio-CDs into ATRAC!if you need QUALITY, then only use OGG (with 250 Kbit/s MONO or 500 Kbit/s STEREO) and buy one portable OGG player....of course WAV is the perfect FORMAT and 100 % DIGITAL !i still have this dream to get one portable audio player playing my WAV-Files (all in MONO!)....SONY does not add the MONO-Mode into the HI-MD and the SONIC STAGE... and thats why i m gonna hate them all for that... hate the minidisc bullshit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguefan99 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Add to the fact that its got AA batteries with it, and if you are anything like me, you tend to forget to recharge an inbuilt battery (why I wont get an ipod at the moment), so you need to have a good battery source (I carry 4 AA batteries, all rechargables with me!)the 600 is perfect for someone that wants a HiMD purely for listening to music on the gogreat battery playback timegood amount of songsplays back old MD discs as well (premastered and such)small as can be←Only problems I've have is with a dogey remote I picked up (MC33EL), which had a wiring problem (ala tweak the cord and it works). Guess the solder is coming loose, might have to investigate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 SONY does not add the MONO-Mode into the HI-MD and the SONIC STAGE... and thats why i m gonna hate them all for that... hate the minidisc bullshit....←It's a design compromise.#1) very few people use mono modes for other than recording. So why have it on a downloader?#2) since the new recording bitrates are joint-stereo, you can record a split-mono signal and basically get twice the bitrate's quality for the single actual channel. i.e. recording in mono using joint stereo is the equivalent of recording at twice the bitrate [all bits get allocated to the one channel of audio].Mono in PCM mode would have been nice, but still, I see little purpose in the extra effort to implement something so few people actually need, let alone ever use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerodB Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 In some countries, (here in australia) the wholesale + aftersales taxes on electrical goods are phenomenal, so it makes sense for us to import small goods such as portable MD units from our e-tailer friends and ebayers in S.E. Asia. I think the rule is you can import up to $1000 of goods for personal use tax-I guess that applies everywhere though. You'd be amazed at how much lower than the recommended retail price prodcuts can go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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