Don't Get Too Narrow Mind On New Tech, Hi-md Is A Revolution

[Guest tony wong]

more than 10 years ago, when MD is first released

everyone is shocked with its tiny size to store a whole cd

and now, Hi-MD have the capacity of holding 1G music/data

and its design already make the limit of "storing music only"

so why, storing and playing of image/video is not good?

the strategy of such MD like product is always "front-in-the-line"

so, when in the time like now, when there are so many other models which can also store music in a large capacity......

why still go after them?

I'll have to clarify again

Hi-MD itself is a totally new revolution product

(what I mean is u can't expect Hi-MD will be like NetMD still only for audio recording)

anyone still remember a film called "Eraser" ?

have anyone still remember that "small tiny disc which can store large amount of data" ?

the day have come

we just need new equipment and application to make use of this new technology

and I can say the strategy of "MD like product" have changed since the birth of Hi-MD

well, more likely it is already changed since 1 or 2 years after NetMD have come to market for some times

the pair of 1 recording deck/bookshelf + 1 playonly portable have gone

[hobgoblin]

1GB is very low for video if your aiming for dvd quality useing lossless compression. and now that sony have blueray and there is hd-dvd out there it shows even more. but for a divx/xvid compressed film (a format the big corps will never use as it have no drm at all) its nice, alltho i wonder what the usb1 data rate will have to say for playback...

[atrain]

xvid/divx should stream without any need for buffering breaks. 1.1 is still pretty fast in the realtime scheme of things

[aeriyn]

The significant problem with using MiniDisc for multimedia purposes is the fact that writing data to a magneto-optical disc is very, very, very slow by modern standards. This wasn't a problem when MD was first designed because it was only able to record in real-time.

[ROMBUSTERS]

The significant problem with using MiniDisc for multimedia purposes is the fact that writing data to a magneto-optical disc is very, very, very slow by modern standards. This wasn't a problem when MD was first designed because it was only able to record in real-time.

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but once again with each new generation and density increase the write speeds have gotten faster and faster. Obviously they will never reach those of CD/DVD bruners but just try comparing them to floppys and think about how share a generally underlying technology of magnetic data storage.

MD has advanced... a lot and it can only get better!

[Michael1980]

Has anyone tried to play a xvid movie from 1gb media? Is the speed ok?

[atrain]

xvid/divx should stream without any need for buffering breaks. 1.1 is still pretty fast in the realtime scheme of things

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i'll quote myself then.

also some people have & regarded it a positively

[Guest tony wong]

there is advantage of Hi-MD over DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW

the data in DVD disc will be lost easily(and consider the error rate)

Hi-MD have this advantage

[ROMBUSTERS]

there is advantage of Hi-MD over DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW

the data in DVD disc will be lost easily(and consider the error rate)

Hi-MD have this advantage

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not necessarily

-MDs in generall have no physical limitations (i.e. they are encased within a shell and cannot be scratched)

-CD/DVD/HDVD/Blu-Ray can easily be scratched

-CD/DVD/HDVD/Blu-Ray (as long as they do not suffer from disc rot) will keep information for an undetermined time

-MDs will gradually degrade after a while, also they are very suceptible to magnetic fields from close by magnets, etc.

-Both get errored sectors that are automatically skipped.

i'd say the error reat on both is about the same

[Justin42]

Are MDs really susceptible to magnetic fields? I thought MO was pretty OK with them, due to the whole Curie-point thing (as long as they weren't superheated you couldn't change the magnetism)?

Here I've been telling my dad it's OK (for now) to store his MDs on his tower speakers while he's working on stuff...

[ROMBUSTERS]

it doesnt happen under 'normal' circumstances however people have done tests with very large magnets over the disc surface itself (i.e. opening the plastic hatch and it can corrupt the data. you shouldnt worry though, right now i have about 7 MDs sitting on top of my computer case, directly above my HDD lol

[dex Otaku]

Neither MD nor HiMD should be susceptible to magnetic fields without there being heat [i.e. the laser, much higher temp than ambient ever is] applied to them.

[aeriyn]

Neither MD nor HiMD should be susceptible to magnetic fields without there being heat [i.e. the laser, much higher temp than ambient ever is] applied to them.

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They are suceptible to very strong magnetic fields even if the substrate is not heated to its Curie temperature. I've erased an MD disc with a homemade electromagnet. But in normal and even most types of abnormal use, MD media should not suffer from magnetic fields unless they are very strong.

[dex Otaku]

They are suceptible to very strong magnetic fields even if the substrate is not heated to its Curie temperature. I've erased an MD disc with a homemade electromagnet.  But in normal and even most types of abnormal use, MD media should not suffer from magnetic fields unless they are very strong.

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Electromagnet = modulated field, usually @60Hz. It the strength and rate of change that cause the damage. Fixed fields should not do much unless they're moving pretty fast.

Thanks for the correction re: heat.

[Guest tony wong]

I just wonder why this thread is moved to this forum

this topic is neither critics nor evaluation

this main purpose of this thread is to wake/tell people that....

Hi-MD is different from MD now already

it's primary use had included storing data now(in which in the MD century, data and audio is stored on totally different sort of disc)

if u guys still just think Hi-MD only for storing music, then u will miss out the BIG advantage of Hi-MD over other portable equipment like iPod

It is a revolution that we can store data/music in such big capacity in such a small disc(as compared to cdr or dvdr) and it's rewriteable

well, I do think if the users(most likely the early adaptor to Hi-MD) never accept the new concept of MiniDisc can store non-audio things...

this Hi-MD project is not gonna succeed in the first place

[EDIT]wrong reply before, now corrected

Edited February 19, 2005 by tony wong