dutchd1 Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I would be very grateful if anyone can shed some light on the following series of unfortunate events --I just got my MD recorder (MZ-NH900) a couple weeks ago and LOVE it. I have started making live recordings of praise and worship services at my church (using a nice mic/batterybox and the line-in jack). They came out great. Anyway, yesterday I take the plunge and install SonicRAGE off the CD that came with my recorder which ended up being v2.1. So then I install the upgrade and now I have v2.3.Then I start transferring using kurisu's "Guide to Hi-MD uploading". THANK GOD I started with his "upload method 1.1 [realtime]" first or I would have NOTHING now. Everything still seems fine at this point.After that has been done I have SonicRAGE transfer the recording into "My Library" and name it etc. Then I realize it named the file untitled.ama since I hadn't titled the track on my recorder. So I rename the file using explorer and when i go back to SonicRAGE it tells me it can't the file and asks me to locate it with a little dialog box. No problems, all seems quiet and peaceful. Then...I attempt to then transfer the recording to an audio CD with SonicRAGE but it tells me that I cannot create a CD because the remaining transfer count is 0. What the HE** is up with that?!? ITS MY RECORDING. (btw, I used the line-in connection for my recording) So now I'm getting a little crazed at SonicRAGE. I retry a couple times and search the help file and do a few searches on-line but come up with nothing useful. I even renamed the file back to untitled.oma and let SonicRAGE find it again but this still didn't help. Same message about the transfer count.So then I think that maybe I'll transfer it again because maybe renaming it messed something up. So I reconnect my MD unit and start the transfer again. Seems to be transferring OK but then I come back to try again and there is NO track in my library and it shows no track on the Hi-MD side either. So I unplug the USB cable and plug it back in..NOTHING then I unplug my unit and try to play the MD but the MD display just says "NO TRACK". So now I'm in a RAGE at SonicStage and want to burn it, bash it, and totally smash it. Any ideas on what I did wrong? Renaming file screwed the transfer count? Can you not delete a file from your library without sonic stage removing it from your minidisc?Thanks in advance for your time,-DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchd1 Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Well, I just got off the phone with Sony and this is what they tell me after escalating the problem 3 times up to a specialist:1. The "Create Audio CD" selection only works after you convert the file to a WAV file with Sony WAV Converter.2.The "transfer count" error message was erroneous and should've said something like "Invalid format" or "Must convert file first", etc. Maybe they will have more helpful error messages in the future. Renaming the file had no effect.3.You can only transfer a file to SonicStage ONCE! If you EVER try to transfer a file from your MD to SonicStage (NO MATTER WHAT COMPUTER IT IS) again, IT WILL DELETE THE MD!!!! Which is what happened to me. No warnings, nothing.4. My recording is gone and never will be seen again. Again, THANK THE LORD I USED kurisu's "Guide to Hi-MD uploading" and started with his "upload method 1.1 [realtime]"-DJ I am now an official member of the "He-man SonicStage-Haters Club" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 3.You can only transfer a file to SonicStage ONCE! If you EVER try to transfer a file from your MD to SonicStage (NO MATTER WHAT COMPUTER IT IS) again, IT WILL DELETE THE MD!!!! Which is what happened to me. No warnings, nothing.WTF?? What kind of a strange rule is that? I mean, I can understand (considering Sony's paranoid policy) that they don't want you to upload a file more than once. But can't they just block the file after one upload? Deleting something that is not yours is as bad as, or even worse than, downloading something that is not yours!-DJ I am now an official member of the "He-man SonicStage-Haters Club"←Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Not to be egotistical, but that was actually -my- guide to HiMD uploading, as posted by kurisu.You're the second person to report lost uploads with SS 2.3, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I've lost one too, with my NetMD (I wanted to transfer something back to my PC). I've just never reported it and I'm sure there are many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I've lost one too, with my NetMD (I wanted to transfer something back to my PC). I've just never reported it and I'm sure there are many others.←This would be because netMD does not do uploading. SS permits the old-style "checking in" which the removes the track from your MD, which is what happened to you.In other words, you didn't lose your tracks because SS trashed them. You just accidentally threw them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrius Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 May I suggest to the original poster of this thread to try Marcnet's wonderful Hi-MD renderer? Convert that OMA to wav/mp3/whatever, and free it forever from Sony's taint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 This would be because netMD does not do uploading. SS permits the old-style "checking in" which the removes the track from your MD, which is what happened to you.In other words, you didn't lose your tracks because SS trashed them. You just accidentally threw them away.←Ok, my mistake. They were gone however, the songs disappeared from the MD and out of my library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Not to be egotistical, but that was actually -my- guide to HiMD uploading, as posted by kurisu.You're the second person to report lost uploads with SS 2.3, btw.←Dex-I'm not sure this counts as a lost upload since it's more like an upload that made it but got erased by error either user or DRM-related. Just a small clarification. I've been really lucky with 2.3 so far no problems and the actual uploading was the problem before. Myself and others have also posted numerous times about avoiding a 2nd transfer attempt. Is that pinned for folks who are missing this important info?DO NOT REATTEMPT A 2ND UPLOAD ON Hi-MD. SS WILL DELETE YOUR MD TRACKS AND NOT EVEN TELL YOU IT DID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 I'm not sure this counts as a lost upload since it's more like an upload that made it but got erased by error either user or DRM-related. Just a small clarification.←It seems I wasn't reading the post very closely. I must be slipping.Incidentally, to the original poster: the uploadin FAQ has been updated, including suggestions that would have helped you avoid the original cause of this [the "untitled" files]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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