mrsoul Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I have recorded 2 recent Derek Trucks Band shows in Savannah, Georgia (4-01-05) and Greensboro, North Carolina (4-09-05). I used the NH900 with AT853 mics into the great Reactive Sounds SPA-2(aka "the Boost Box") for the 4-01 show and then switched to my new RH10 with the same setup for the 4-09 show. The RH10 is a great Hi-MD for live recording. The ability to see the recording levels and recording times on the OLED in almost any lighting condition is the reason I have one. I really like having the line inputs on the top of the unit, not the side. I have to say the Reactive Sounds Boost Box is the real deal. Very cool to have that clip LED indicator. You just set the Hi-MD to unity gain (~18/30) and then watch for any flicker of the clip light and then backoff from there. It can't get any easier. Take a listen to these shows and see for yourself. I overwhelmingly recommend the Boost Box for anyone looking for plug-in power and beyond. Solid construction and excellent results.Here are the links: Savannah, Georgia, 4-01-05:>Derek Trucks Band DownloadGreensboro, NC 4-09-05:> Derek Trucks Band DownloadI would appreciate your feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Sound-wise near perfection, but i would have cut out the click in the very first track and normalized both shows.Congratulations to these fabulous recordings!How did you set up / place the microphones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted April 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I have gotten gun shy with normalization and I think the levels are good enough with the preamp pushing. I went both times with a NOS/DIN configuration on the cardioids using this mount:Mic Mount from Sound ProsThanks for the comments. I am heading down to Florida for the Wanee Festival. I should get a full work out there. I have some new subcardioid elements that I plan to use. I also have some hypercardioid elements that I will try one of these days... See ya down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDnewuser Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) mrsoul: Please tell us more about the recordings, they sound great :-). There are a few things that i want to know. Did you use line-in ?, what level did you use and if i have got it right the little blue knob can help me to adjust "line-in level" to the MD in darkness so the levels not pass 0 db ?, i am right ?. How did you adjust it just before the concert (so you got the levels right) ? did they soundcheck ?. If i have got it right i can use it as a batterybox only (if i want to). Did you uploaded it by Sonicstage ? Edited April 13, 2005 by MDnewuser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 My setup was AT853 mics into the Reactive Sounds SPA-2 into the line input of the Hi-MD (NH900 or RH10). I set the Hi-MD to manual record at 18/30 (which is unity gain-no suppression or amplification of the input or something like that :-). I have worked with the SPA-2 twice with this band and I kinda found a spot that gives me about 4 bars at all times (less than -12db) without any flicker on the SPA-2. If I notice any flicker on that clip LED, I back off on the dial just a hair. It's a great warning that you might be getting close to distortion. As far as the battery box vs preamp question: if you turn the gain all the way down, it's just powering the mics without any amplification. That's basically what a battery box does, it sends 9v power to the mics. No soundcheck, I just set it to low while the house music plays and then I am ready for adjustments in the first few minutes. I leave it set the entire show once I am satisfied with the levels. I always just put the Hi-MD on Hold after I set it to manual recording and leave it in pause until I am ready (I use the remote for that operation if I have the remote with me).I uploaded all of these with SS 3.0 without any problems. I still track the shows on the way home so I have 8 to 9 files per set/MD. I am still paranoid about trying to upload an entire show/MD at one time. I lost some shows like that with SS 2.3. I haven't tried it with 3.0 since I like to track the show regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDnewuser Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 mrsoul: OK, great:-), i will listen some more to your files and then decide what to buy, its between the juicebox and the boostbox and the later have the "knob adjusting feature" so never need to having the MD up screwing around adjusting levels + i think its more suitable for all kinds of recording sitautions. Using a batterybox my experiance from reading is that it gets very low level, so you have to amplify it a lot, perhaps not get all details of the show.Am i thinking right ?, have you used a batterybox apart from your new boostbox ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted April 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I have used a battery box that came with a set of Giant Squid Mics. I always had to amplify (using normalization in Cool Edit Pro) the tracks. I haven't normalized anything since last December. Let's just say I found normalization to be something I would save for VERY low recording levels. The Boost Box puts me right where I need to be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDnewuser Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 mrsoul: i guess a lot of amplying afterwards even using line-in creates more noise (when levels are so low from the beginning) some might be impossible to hear, low speech for example. Am i right ?.Also if i have gotting this right with the knob, if i use line-in 18/30 the boost box and mics i could start turning the knob when soundcheck & find where "the limit" into the MD is going to be instead of taking it out and adjusting the levels. Am i right ?Does the knob just spin, or is it sensentive, like a voltage/multimeter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vansmack Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 I'll be taping my first show a week from Sunday with my rh10 (Sysyem of a down) at the universal Ampitheatre(very loud indoor venue) All my previous shows have came out awesome with my old sharp 480h md recorder. One question I have is should I let the levels get as close to the max w/o going over? This is what gave me great results with my sharp unit. I use it with my sp battery box w/ bass rolloff at 69...using line in. Also what would a good starting line level be? I'm guesiing 15-20. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalo Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 hi guys!i'm new to this forum...hello to all!now i go straight to the question..i have an MZ-R700PC ..and it does a massive amount of mechanical noise when recording/playing so i really can't do any 'quiet thing' recording...i'm planning to buy this new Rh10...does it do any mechanical noise when recording?thanxlalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted April 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 mrsoul: i guess a lot of amplying afterwards even using line-in creates more noise (when levels are so low from the beginning) some might be impossible to hear, low speech for example. Am i right ?.Also if i have gotting this right with the knob, if i use line-in 18/30 the boost box and mics i could start turning the knob when soundcheck & find where "the limit" into the MD is going to be instead of taking it out and adjusting the levels. Am i right ?Does the knob just spin, or is it sensentive, like a voltage/multimeter ?←The knob turns: counterclockwise lower gain, clockwise higher gain. By design it's a hard turn (don't want it turning by itself If you start with 18/30 (unity gain), you should lock the recorder and just use the Boost Box as your guide to the gain level. It will let you know when you approach distortion by flickering the LED clip light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDnewuser Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) mrsoul: OK, thanks. I decided this weekend to go for a boostbox too. Now that the dollar is low in course it felt stupid being cheap + i listen to a lot of different musicstyles. So soon i might give my own review of it:-)I think its good to get the levels up to eliminate as much noise as possible. BTW: did you use the big mikes shown at your site or a pair of smaller ones ? Edited April 20, 2005 by MDnewuser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsoul Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 mrsoul: OK, thanks. I decided this weekend to go for a boostbox too. Now that the dollar is low in course it felt stupid being cheap + i listen to a lot of different musicstyles. So soon i might give my own review of it:-)I think its good to get the levels up to eliminate as much noise as possible. BTW: did you use the big mikes shown at your site or a pair of smaller ones ?←I only have the AT853 mics now. I have updated my Setup Page, I sold the AT822 to a guy in New Zealand via Ebay. You CANNOT use the AT822 with the Boost Box, it causes too much interference noise since the AT822 needs a AA to work. Won't work without a AA battery power. Good luck and let us know how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vansmack Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 hi guys!i'm new to this forum...hello to all!now i go straight to the question..i have an MZ-R700PC ..and it does a massive amount of mechanical noise when recording/playing so i really can't do any 'quiet thing' recording...i'm planning to buy this new Rh10...does it do any mechanical noise when recording?thanxlalo←No...Unless you set the mics on top of your recorder at a very quiet show...I place my mics in my hat..the higher up the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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