BillyBoy Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 I have read a lot here about using a volume attenuator for live recording...Can anyone please tell me where I can get one in the UKThanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 maplins carries a similar thingy... just search on these forums... some UK user has bravely tried it and was impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy Posted May 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 maplins carries a similar thingy... just search on these forums... some UK user has bravely tried it and was impressed←Thanks.. I have phoned several branches of Maplin.. and they have never heard of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 A direct link:http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?Module...ldID=6&doy=17m4The respective discussion:http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=9558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy Posted May 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 A direct link:http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?Module...ldID=6&doy=17m4The respective discussion:http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=9558←Thanks GreenMachine.. I went to Maplins straight away and bought 3 of these gadgets.. .. There are some live concerts coming up at the end of May.. so I have some time to experiment..Thanks again for pointing me to this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadwing Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Sorry, i've not been on the forums today- 'twas I who bravely road-tested said unit-and it gets two thumbs up from me!! Most of the Maplins stores seem to stock these 'behind the counter', which makes me think that maybe it's a line they will stop doing at some point, so I grabbed 4 of them.One thing i've done is wrap a bit of tape around the body/volume controller as it seems a bit easy to accidentally turn the volume dial down, and you always want it leaving fully open-and if it's a metal gig you are recording, make sure it goes up to 11!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy Posted May 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Sorry, i've not been on the forums today- 'twas I who bravely road-tested said unit-and it gets two thumbs up from me!! Most of the Maplins stores seem to stock these 'behind the counter', which makes me think that maybe it's a line they will stop doing at some point, so I grabbed 4 of them.One thing i've done is wrap a bit of tape around the body/volume controller as it seems a bit easy to accidentally turn the volume dial down, and you always want it leaving fully open-and if it's a metal gig you are recording, make sure it goes up to 11!!!! ←Thanks Deadwing.. the tape sounds like a good idea.. the ones I bought don't have numbers on the volume dial.. but I will turn it up till it stops.. I have read most of your posts on this subject and the good advice you've been given.. I have 3 concerts to go to at the end of May / beginning of June.. so I will take your advice and set my HiMD to manual volume and at 17/30 with the volume control gadget between the mic and the MD.. Thanks again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 You shouldn't plan to use a certain manual level since you propably don't know how loud the concerts are going to be. But you can use this setting as an orientation and start the adjustment from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadwing Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 You shouldn't plan to use a certain manual level since you propably don't know how loud the concerts are going to be. But you can use this setting as an orientation and start the adjustment from there.←Which is exactly what i said!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Which is exactly what i said!!!←okay, no need to raise your voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy Posted May 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 okay, no need to raise your voice←Thanks guys,I will be recording in "stealth" mode.. so probably won't be able to carry out any adjustments after the concert has started.. apart from not wanting to be seen with a minidisc.. it might be too dark for me to see the MD properly.. I thought the best thing to do is set the volume at about 17/30.. and adjust it in Adobe Audition when I get home.. what do you think??.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 (edited) Thanks guys,I will be recording in "stealth" mode.. so probably won't be able to carry out any adjustments after the concert has started.. apart from not wanting to be seen with a minidisc.. it might be too dark for me to see the MD properly.. I thought the best thing to do is set the volume at about 17/30.. and adjust it in Adobe Audition when I get home.. what do you think??..←I assume you're talking about low sensitivity mic in mode, right?Hard to say what level to use.What kind of microphones do you use or rather what's their sensitivity?What kind of concerts are you going to listen to?How close will you be to the stage?For loud shows you may need to set the level even lower. Edited May 14, 2005 by greenmachine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadwing Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 okay, no need to raise your voice←No raised voice at all, just surprised at the tone of your message which seemed to be correcting something i'd said.As Billyboy says in the post below, you often need to 'set it and forget it' so adjusting on the fly isn't always a possibility anyway. If there is no support act, then you've got nothing to use as a marker.Billyboy, I wouldn't think you'll have much raising to do at 17/30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy Posted May 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 I assume you're talking about low sensitivity mic in mode, right?Hard to say what level to use.What kind of microphones do you use or rather what's their sensitivity?What kind of concerts are you going to listen to?How close will you be to the stage?For loud shows you may need to set the level even lower.←Thanks for your adviceI will use Low Sens... Mic is Sony ECM-719Neil Diamond concerts..4th row from stageIt will be quite loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 The frequency response of that mic is 100--15,000 Hz, which means you're not getting a lot of the bass that drives the MD preamp over the edge. I've never used that mic, but I would guess that if you're going through an attenuator and you have it set to Low Sens, then you are probably safe at 20/30. While everyone else is playing with their cell phones and cameras, see if you can sneak a peek at the level during the show--it should be between the two dashes. If it's above the right-hand dash, you're in trouble, and below the left-hand dash will be good but a bit quiet. Yes, you can crank it up in Audition, but it's better to get as much as you can in the first place (without overloading of course). Hope he does "Red, Red Wine" and "I'm a Believer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy Posted May 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 The frequency response of that mic is 100--15,000 Hz, which means you're not getting a lot of the bass that drives the MD preamp over the edge. I've never used that mic, but I would guess that if you're going through an attenuator and you have it set to Low Sens, then you are probably safe at 20/30. While everyone else is playing with their cell phones and cameras, see if you can sneak a peek at the level during the show--it should be between the two dashes. If it's above the right-hand dash, you're in trouble, and below the left-hand dash will be good but a bit quiet. Yes, you can crank it up in Audition, but it's better to get as much as you can in the first place (without overloading of course). Hope he does "Red, Red Wine" and "I'm a Believer."←Thanks A440,With all the good advice I've received on this subject, I feel much more confident about live recording. I think I'm just about ready to go for it..Diamond always does all the old favourites, including the 2 songs you mention..Thanks again for all the help with this.. it is very much appreciated.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_tsh Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 I look forward to hearing how you get on with the Maplin volume control and the Sony ECM 719 mic, as I ordered the Maplin thing tonight, and ordered an ECM 719 too, but I cancelled the order, so that I could see first if the Volume Control does the trick with my current mic.Maybe you can put up a recording from the gig so that I can hear how the mic sounds??I'd really appreciate that.thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 ...to be continued here:http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=10280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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