corduroy Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 i've read on the manual that you can't record line in and mic in with RH10 is it possible with some other MD?----i've tried to record from my tv (sony trinitron) from the output but sound it's very low! why? i need a preamp? maybe it's the cable?thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 You can record either through line-in or mic-in. You would need an external mixer to do it simultaneously.----Turn up the TV's volume to the max. and adjust levels with the recorder.By the way, your avatar scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 You can record either through line-in or mic-in. You would need an external mixer to do it simultaneously.----Turn up the TV's volume to the max. and adjust levels with the recorder.By the way, your avatar scares me. ←indeed and...----I just tried it myself, switched it on, turned it to MTV and pressed rec, checked levels... worked just fine... too bad I didn't check what was on... now I've actually got shakira on MD blech! (not to offend any shakira fans out there, but it really is not my cup of tea ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corduroy Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 uhm... i've tried to turn up the volume but it was barely hearable... what are the settings on the md? the cable i use it's a RCA (i think its name is) on a side and a minijack on the other, it's not optical i believe...btw my avatar it's the cover of one of the greatest LP in history! in the court of the crimson king by king crimsoni love them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyIvan Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Then you are recording from the headphone out on a tv? That is not a very strong signal. You would be better off recording with a mic and the TV at normal volume, if your environment permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corduroy Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 i think it's the line out not headphone out... i've tried to record with mic in but it's too bad soundingi'll try again with other settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 It's possible that the line-out of your TV is affected by the TV's volume control. There might be an option to disable that in the TV's preferences, or you might have to turn up the volume so it's within the normal range of line-level for consumer devices like your recorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 It's possible that the line-out of your TV is affected by the TV's volume control. There might be an option to disable that in the TV's preferences, or you might have to turn up the volume so it's within the normal range of line-level for consumer devices like your recorder.←well, I used the headphone out, bu I can set its level and put it to somewhat rediculously high (well it's almost always at that level as my partially deaf dad uses it for his tv-hearing aid) went minijack->minijack -line in, manual reclevel (25/30), mic sense low (does this matter with line in?), trackmark @60minthe recording was very clear and levels were perfectly on first dot with peaks till halfway to second dot..greetings, Volta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 ...mic sense low (does this matter with line in?)...←Short question - short answer:----No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 greenmachine: sorry I ended up just restating what you'd already said. It looked a bit [as it was after ---] like it was part of a .sig.well, I used the headphone out, bu I can set its level and put it to somewhat rediculously high (well it's almost always at that level as my partially deaf dad uses it for his tv-hearing aid) went minijack->minijack -line in, manual reclevel (25/30), mic sense low (does this matter with line in?), trackmark @60minthe recording was very clear and levels were perfectly on first dot with peaks till halfway to second dot..That's what I'd expect. Most "average" headphone outputs on devices like TVs, mini stereos, &c. will be in the voltage range of line-level when at about 70%.When doing something like this, I'd set the recorder to unity gain [no gain, no cut - about 18/30 on manual levels] and then adjust the volume of the device you're recording from.Other thoughts:* Set the TV's tone controls to flat* Turn off any kind of spatialiser, virtual surround, stereo enhancement, or similarBasically, disable any form of processing to the audio [other than MTS stereo if it's from standard cable or over-the-air].See also the Recording from any line source FAQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I don't get this 18/30 unity gain setting:If i connect my md-recorder (mz-r 909) to my cd-player (pioneer pd-s 504) - which should have a standard 1V peak to peak output voltage - the analogue way, I have to set the recorder to max. 15/30, anything above would lead to clipping.Did they change the gain for newer MD recorders?Does this cd-player have a higher, non-standard output voltage?Somebody please enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Standard CD players have higher peak voltages than 1V. This has generally been true since they were introduced in the 1980s.Unity gain on a consumer MD or HiMD recorder is compared to equipment referenced to the -10dBV consumer standard.The standard does not define how much headroom the system has; it only defines that -10dBV is equal to 0VU when metering the signal.Many types of equipment exceed 1Vp-p; HiFi/AFM VTRs, CD players, &c. generally all do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 just as a slight remark I wasn't trying to get the best result I could possibly get, I was just quickly testing (without doing to much effort ) whether it worked... of course it did, later I noted down the settings as a report of the test, not as 'best practice'... so, Dex indeed, 18/30 and adjusting the TV seems logical...BUT the main thing to remember when recording TV: make sure you know what's on! I accidentally taped 5 Shakira songs !greetings, Voltadisclaimer: I have nothing against Shakira or her fans... but I personally do not feel the need to actually listen to her music and will avoid it if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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