veezhun Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 i just bought the senn mx 450.. i must say the sound is very flat with very poor bass response.. even the stock sony head phones that came with the rh10 are better.. actually, the stock headphones are wonderful..i am not a bass head and dont listen to music with heavy bass but the mx 450 has extremely poor bass nonetheless..is there some issue of burn-in and if so, what is the way to do it??cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I doubt it'll have a significant effect, they're propably not worth the effort, but:http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58157I have the mx400 and without equalisation they sound pretty poor, honestly i don't understand the hype about these little sennheisers. It seems to be really worth to use larger headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Low Volta Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I also use the Senn MX450's (and also the MX350's) but I do think my opinion differs a bit...Ok, without eq'ing they do lack bass (not as much as the 350's though), but with a bit of eq'ing I really think a lot of this can be restored. Mostly I raise 100Hz -> +6dB; 250Hz -> +3dB and depending on the music I sometimes also lower 10kHz -> -3dB (or on the six-band eq of the NH900, utter left stripe two notches up, the next one, one notch up and sometimes the right one one nudge down) If you do eq them, at least they will have bass (some bass-lacking phones will never have, even when q'ed to max), while as the sony stock 'buds (who indeed are more bassy from themselves) will always lack the clarity of the Senn's even with extensive eq'ing...But the main point here is: "what have you bought them for?" I got them as a cheap replacement for the stock buds... first I found the 350's (for €7) and was impressed by heir brightness, but a bit disappointed by the lack of bass and the asymmetric neckstrap style. I was going to search on for better buds, but I couldn't really see any good+strong+cheap+easy to find ones. Then I came across the 450's (for €15) which were symmetrical (yay) and could have the bass raised by eq'ing (as I had noticed with the 350's in the mean time) so I got these to accompany me on 'my travels'...Sure you can find better sounding buds or canalphones...but not under $20! And they do sound better (with eq'ing) than a lot of more expensive ones IMHO. I only use bud's when I'm traveling by train or walking (and riding public transport) through Brussels...and I really think that the X450's are good bud's for that use (just crank up that bass and believe me, they will sound much better than the stock buds). For extended listening or more hifi-allowing surroundings (a quiet living room or something alike) I use my bigger Senn HD497's which do sound better. If I'm going to spend more money, I have other priorities than buds, first I need a decent pair of mics (still haven't decidied which ones ) and an upgrade for my more hifi headphones (perhaps to something bigger but still portable enough for on a train like the eggo's or something)...after all that is done I will start looking for high(er) quality buds...So bottom line: - With he MX450's you get more than you payed for, but you did only pay very little! They are cheap but decent replacements for the stock buds and if you eq the bass, they sound (at least to me) much better than the 'generic' Sony buds.- If you want something sounding really good, be prepared to spend more money...greetings, VoltaPS: they do start to sound a bit deeper after extended use (or it could be that my ears are getting more used to them ) but I don't think it is necessary to really 'professionally' burn these in (heck the wear on your machine from burning in would cost more than the buds themselves )... just use them and see if you can hear any changes gradually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veezhun Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 totally agree with you volta.. i got them free so cant complain about the price.. i have the following 'phones with me as of now:1. Buds: Sony stock ones that came with the Rh10 and the Senn Mx 4502. Canal : Sony ex 71.. not too loud as comapred to either of the above phones.3. hiFi: Philips SBC hp890.. these are fantastic for the music i listen to. These are one of the best i have ever used or tried for the price range.. i tried the EQ as you suggested and the results do improve but not much.. i guess i cant expect too much with this. free is free afterall!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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