ATRAC3plus 48kbps

[Alexx]

whats the point of it

[Yizgarnnoff]

For an interview perhaps, or a speech.

But you ( in fact I ) can't use it for music.

[greenmachine]

A marketing trick: "Fit 45 CDs (in horrible quality) onto one HiMD." or "Transfer music with up to 100x speed (again, in horrible quality)."

[Alexx]

A marketing trick: "Fit 45 CDs (in horrible quality) onto one HiMD." or "Transfer music with up to 100x speed (again, in horrible quality)."

how sceptical

i thought i just had ultra sensative ears.

which is odd cause i really like LP4 compression

[soundalike]

how sceptical

i thought i just had ultra sensative ears.

which is odd cause i really like LP4 compression

True though - I used to work in marketing!

[Alexx]

True though - I used to work in marketing!

[1kyle]

It's the same marketing ploy that they use in marketing digital cameras -- the MP (nr of mega pixels) is always quoted -- but of course all pixels are NOT equal, A decent professional 6MP DSLR will leave an 8MP point and shoot type of digital camera for dust --but just listen to the sales guys !! If it wasn't so sad it would really be funny.

I suppose these are marketed at the same sort of people who willingly sign Store Card credit cards at a whopping 29% INTEREST or those who are suckered in parting with their money to pay say 60 GBP for an "Extended Warranty" for a piece of apparatus only costing 150 GBP.

Quote -- A Fool is easily parted from his Money.

Cheers

-K

Edited September 21, 2005 by 1kyle

[petertkalec]

I use my Hi-MD at work... and I work in the loudest frikkin places you've ever been (or never been). 48k is just as good as anything for these situations. I have my MD player under my hard hat and a since earbud coming down under my ear muff. Everything sounds poor in these conditions... but I can shuffle tunes and have mega-variety for my 12 hour shifts.

Basically, lot bitrate tunes have their place.

[sebastianbf]

I use it to record stand up shows from seinfeld and others. It does the work . (forget about using it for music!)

[mmp64]

I use it to record stand up shows from seinfeld and others. It does the work . (forget about using it for music!)

I use it to play at very low volumes (background music) on non-powered speakers.

[migt]

I use 48k a lot for speech and audiobooks. Sometimes, I just use HiLP if the source quality is really bad, so transcoding doesn't affect it so much.

[LupinIV]

I use 48k a lot for speech and audiobooks. Sometimes, I just use HiLP if the source quality is really bad, so transcoding doesn't affect it so much.

+1

[iyareu]

Like some others I use 48kbps sometimes and used it a lot when I know I am going to be using 1 disc all day in a noisy environment like on the train or on a plane journey. I find it is fine for my needs.

I use closed Sennheiser HD-270 headphones and even then it sounds fine.

I listen to Soul, Funky house and UK and US garage as well as classical and find that I get a reasonable result.

If I was going to be listening to music of any kind at about 1am and in a quiet room through a good stereo then I would use something much higher.

I usually use 64kbps as a standard and this is fine too.

Hmmmmmmm

Edited September 23, 2005 by iyareu

[KJ_Palmer]

I used 48k a little on my first Hi-MD recordings, just to hear what it sounded like, and also on some of the few ATRAC CD's I've created... Mostly Baroque Classical, but also some rock.. I thought it was OK, at first, quite listenable, until I started mixing bitrates on the same disk (48 with 64 and 256k and even a couple of PCM)

It was only then, with different tracks played back to back in shuffle mode) indoors and with good headphones that I fully realised how awfully tinny and unmusical it was - literally feels like the musical life force had been sucked dry... 64k was hardly any better, but 256k was great and PCM magnificent.

In a noisy backround with stock buds 48k probably sounds not too bad, and for speech obviously it would be perfect, but I haven't used 48k since then...

[jay209]

I used 48k a little on my first Hi-MD recordings, just to hear what it sounded like, and also on some of the few ATRAC CD's I've created... Mostly Baroque Classical, but also some rock.. I thought it was OK, at first, quite listenable, until I started mixing bitrates on the same disk (48 with 64 and 256k and even a couple of PCM)

It was only then, with different tracks played back to back in shuffle mode) indoors and with good headphones that I fully realised how awfully tinny and unmusical it was - literally feels like the musical life force had been sucked dry... 64k was hardly any better, but 256k was great and PCM magnificent.

In a noisy backround with stock buds 48k probably sounds not too bad, and for speech obviously it would be perfect, but I haven't used 48k since then...

i was about to say... " you can listen to classical at such a low bitrate?"

eheh

[KJ_Palmer]

^ Nope, not any more, but you at least have to give it a try to establish that you can't...

[zxon]

I used 48kbps when I first got my RH10 and was very happy when I managed to squeeze 198 songs onto (what was originally) a 74min MD. Then I started playing around with other bitrates and now I've decided on simply transferring MP3s over, as these sound so much better.

I can expect just as many songs on one MD still, but it has to be a 1Gb one now

[Alexx]

^ Nope, not any more, but you at least have to give it a try to establish that you can't...

Awww *hugs*

[mangizmo]

A marketing trick: "Fit 45 CDs (in horrible quality) onto one HiMD." or "Transfer music with up to 100x speed (again, in horrible quality)."

I use that bit rate all the time as it is perfect for audiobooks, I have just finished listening to 35 hour series of lectures, infact I very rarely use minidisc for music, as it doesnt really interest me, but as a medium for speech 48KB/s is great...45 hours at around the same sort of quality as FM radio on a rerecordable cheap disc....whats wrong with that ????, I have hundreds of hours of speech based audio on Hi MD

[greenmachine]

Nothing wrong with it for speech and such propably, just not suited for serious listening (for me at least). It's the same old quality vs. quantity discussion. By the way, my comment was not meant to be taken too seriously.