Imagebboy Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 So ive had my MZ-RH10 for 2 weeks now... and what can I say? I knew it would be good, and my luck is usually that i get over hyped on things, and it doesnt meet my expectations, and im left making excuses why I bought it. Well, lucky me, the MZ-RH10 exceded my expectations, and I am overly pleased However, Im trying to find out what the best option is as far as file format and storage. I know this is all ones opinon, and in the end, its really up to me, but I want to see your guys thoughts and methods so I could get some ideas of my own. So far, Ive thought about doing all my albums in Hi-SP and then making a 48kbps 1GB disc for playing in the car stereo for the long drives. (the car stereo quality is a stock 91 caddillac casette deck with adaptor and stock speakers) so I didnt think quality really mattered for the car. I dont know if what style I listen to is going to effect what quality I use, but I listen to mostly old soul & R&B. Thats the music I really care about sounding nicer. what do you guys think? what are your methods?What formats work good for you, and what size disc? Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastianbf Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hi! Welcome to the forumsWell, what can I say. There are multiple opinions about this. Personally i record all my music in Hi-MD mode because i care about the quality since I use my MZNH900 all the day with good headphones. I also have a pair of discs recorded in 48kbps with stand up shows from Seinfeld, audiobooks, and voice recordings. Search for post about bitrates quality and opinions. I think you can find a lot of post about it.You should try the different bitrates with the same song and with good heaphones to realize the different quality.Enjoy your minidisc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raintheory Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 (edited) Firstly, the RH10 plays native Mp3... So if you have the files already in this format, theres really no need to transcode to HiSP (HiLP may be worth it for the situation mentioned below)... If you are going straight from a CD/WAV file to HiMD for headphone listening, I would recommend HiSP...I haven't personally used HiLP much, but I would probably go for it for in-car use on long drives...Also, I would recommend HiSP over Mp3 if you have the CD or lossless music file. The 2nd Gen units aren't quite up to my standards for playing standard Mp3 files... HiSP sounds much better to me (and others) than Mp3 at commonly found bitrates, when played back on the 2nd gen units. Edited September 24, 2005 by raintheory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanage Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) In all honesty I only use PCM for CD-MD recordings (hence my username). Then again, I'm also an overly banal audiophile I use MDR-F1 headphones so it's pretty easy to tell the difference between compression and non. However, you should choose whatever suits you. If you are recording from CD though, you should use the highest bitrate you can.I also use SP on Net-MD's for when I go to Japan, as Hi-MD is virtually non-existent over there (regular MD, however...) Edited September 26, 2005 by PCManiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_raji Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) I'm not sure if the RH10 is capable of this (I have an NH600D and it works) but I format my discs in Hi-MD mode, and copy the songs over in LP2 format, either 96kbps or 132kbps.If you aren't picky about the sound quality, then go to Hi-SP 64kbps at the lowest. Going all the way down to 48kbps will be way too noticeable.Personally, I find 96kbps and lower to sound "tinny" where all the higher frequency sounds are melded together as a single monotone background "tinny" noise. That noise will still show up on your car stereo, no matter how low quality the car stereo is.For the soul and r&b music, I'd guess there isn't alot of treble in there, but I've heard alot of people complain about the same type of sound for the bass sounds. Edited September 26, 2005 by big_raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 In all honesty I only use PCM for CD-MD recordingsThat is the only raeson why I bought my NH1..for PCM feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genghisbunny Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Im trying to find out the best file format and storage. I know this is all ones opinon...So far, Ive thought about doing all my albums in Hi-SP and then making a 48kbps 1GB disc for playing in the car stereo for the long drives. (the car stereo quality is a stock 91 caddillac casette deck with adaptor and stock speakers) so I didnt think quality really mattered for the car. I dont know if what style I listen to is going to effect what quality I use, but I listen to mostly old soul & R&B. Thats the music I really care about sounding nicer. what do you guys think? what are your methods?I use a mix of the old MDs (74 and 80-minute) which I have a lot of, and HiMDs which I have 10 of so far. I use Hi-SP for all of them, meaning I get 2 albums on a 74-80 minute disc and about 8-10 albums on a Hi-MD.I listen to lots of funk and soul, and find that Hi-SP is rich, warm and bassy with a nice pop on the bass guitar and floor toms, but still has lots of headroom over the top of cymbal crashes and a wicked sound on wah guitar (a la Catfish Collins from Parliament and Bootsy's solo band). I haven't put my 4 tops collection across, but my Stax Records anthology sounds great as is.In my limited experience with Hi-LP I find it's real weakness to be female vocals, which tend to go washy and indistinct. I haven't put any funk and soul onto Hi-LP so I can't comment but find it's quite hit and miss. I would reccommend trying it out in your system and seeing what you think.My experience with 48k sound is that it just doesn't have enough guts to produce the richness you need in vocals, guitar, piano or string work, and can cut out resonance on drums, so it's probably not going to give you what you listen for in soul and R&B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanage Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Hey genghisbunny, where did you get your avatar?Me like, me like very much because me dislike iPod very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagebboy Posted September 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I listen to lots of funk and soul, and find that Hi-SP is rich, warm and bassy with a nice pop on the bass guitar and floor toms, but still has lots of headroom over the top of cymbal crashes and a wicked sound on wah guitar (a la Catfish Collins from Parliament and Bootsy's solo band). I haven't put my 4 tops collection across, but my Stax Records anthology sounds great as is.Hey we should get together and talk old school some time! Im all about soul, funk, & r&b!Thanks for the sugestions guys! youve all helped a ton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicillo Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Personally I think that it all depends on what are you storing the music for. 48kbps, for me, is unnacceptable since I notice the bad quality. However Hi-LP (64) is excellent to amplify in the car and still you get 34 hours of music. Now. I am a musician and I love classical music, so my favourite pieces are encoded at 256kbps... definitely.For Live recordings PCM is the answer. So It will all depend on how well you want hear everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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