Portable (walkman style) CD player

[Human]

Hi,-

Please help me if U can,....

I like to find out if there is a portable (walkman style) CD player (Sony or other brands) that could play in similar or the same quality as MD-LP2 quality - ( but can record large quantity of music , like MP3 format can ).

But i like to also be able to play this portable CD player via speakers, -- so would be good if it had a proper "line out".

From what i was reading MP3 format is not that great, ( i never actually had a chance to listen to a MP3 sound ) - and since i do have Sony MDS-JE470 deck - / and I like the LP2 quality / i like this portable CD be able to record in format as close as possible to LP2,

-- [ or maybe there is "type"of MP3 format that sounds close to LP2 ] ?.

Thank U for any info, ........

EDIT:

I'm just in process of reading post by:Damage on: atraclife site

"Simple Guide to ATRAC CD Players, A little history along with Tips & Hints"

, .....but I would like to hear if U have any other than Sony models to recommend, or any other sites to read reviews on those CD players and as i said before one of the options i really like to have is proper line Out in them.

Cheers, ....

Edited November 28, 2005 by Human

[Sparky191]

LP2 (132kps) is low quality not high quality. A well encoded MP3 (256-320kps) can rival SP (292kps) for SQ. Recent Personal CD players (PCDP) do not have very good SQ. The Sony Discman D-NE20 is their best model. If I were you I avoid CD players and get a HD unit. Check out the portable section over on Head Fi.

If you a lot of music on MD already, maybe just get a HiMD unit.

[greenmachine]

There are lots of portable cd players - but recorders? I don't think so. You'll have to use your 'puter's burner to create cds. I agree that a well encoded mp3 can reach transparency at similar or lower bitrates than atrac, but usually needs some more decoding power -> shorter battery life.

[Human]

Thanks

Sparky191

You said to avoid CD players and get a HD unit.

But as also You said in other post in "Different Music/HDD Devices" , that the HD units brake, ....and I read that to on other sites, and in that case one will loose all the music.

This is the reason i was looking at portable CD players.

Yes, the Sony Discman D-NE20, looks good and it has ::: Outputs (at 3V input level): Line output (stereo minijack), Headphones (stereo minijack), Optical digital output ::: -- so I could connect and play via speakers.

And i was looking at Panasonic SL-CT810 D.Sound CD-MP3 Player

Do U have any opinion on that Panasonic unit - ??

At this point I think i will resign from portable MP3 players and from HD players.

Hi-MD (RH10) or portable CD player is on my mind now.

I was trying google for "Head Fi" - but i'm having no success to find this site.

Please help with link to it.

"A well encoded MP3 (256-320kps) can rival SP (292kps) for SQ".

--that is good news - but is it available to record on CDs ?

"LP2 (132kps) is low quality not high quality." -

OK, I understand that when comparing to Stereo on MD deck, but LP2 on MD deck is acceptable for me,

and LP4 is Not (any more ).

This is the reason i'm looking for similar to LP2 (or better) quality in CD portable player.

Yes - greenmachine I made mistake - You R correct in ::: "There are lots of portable cd players - but recorders? I don't think so."

Thank U guys for Your help ,.....

[greenmachine]

http://www.head-fi.org/

You can put any mp3 onto cd in data mode.

[Human]

There are lots of portable cd players - but recorders? I don't think so. You'll have to use your 'puter's burner to create cds. I agree that a well encoded mp3 can reach transparency at similar or lower bitrates than atrac, but usually needs some more decoding power -> shorter battery life.

Thanks, - greenmachine

So the: "well encoded mp3" has better sound quality then Atrac.

Is this applying also to recording CDs on computer in MP3 format, or only to recording into MP3 players,

from computer ?

I will not be doing the actual computer recording - i'm not familiar with it ( my friend will ) - and most of the time i'm planning to use the portable (?) Hi-MD or CD player to use or at home (via speakers) or take it with me to work and play also or via speakers, or headphones, but mostly via speakers, ...so i will plug into regular power source most of the time.

Cheers,....

[Sparky191]

I think you are confusing transferring music to a device with recording.

I dunno how you couldn't find Head Fi. Its the first link in Google.

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=head+Fi&meta=

What you want is the http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/forumdispla...p?s=&forumid=22

Do a search for the units you mention.

There are lots of portable cd players - but recorders? I don't think so. You'll have to use your 'puter's burner to create cds. I agree that a well encoded mp3 can reach transparency at similar or lower bitrates than atrac, but usually needs some more decoding power -> shorter battery life.

True. I think ATRAC was one of the only formats to be designed partially with battery life in mind.